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02 May 2007 @ 09:53 am
Heroes 1.20  
I had to watch this eppy quick before work (ahh, such an addict), and I missed the title, but I've mentally dubbed it

Guh! Massive, massive guh! This future may be dark, but it's sure hot as hell. And PETER, sheesh! *fans self* I take back all some of my eyerolling about him. As soon as he shimmered into vision on that bar stool, it was all over for me--the scar and the stubble are working for him. Add the swooshy coat and the melodramatic hand gestures of power-usage, and I'm done for. And he's getting it on with Nikki! Nice! And his angst is legitimate in the future if he was the bomb. This suits him far better.

Everyone else was hot too! *flails* I like blonde cheeleader Claire, but it was cool to see her as a brunette too, especially since it suited her darker, undercover self. And it was good to see she'd pulled a cute and adoring boyfriend. Matt was hotter as a 'bad guy' (even though still daft) and Mohinder was... still daft, but the suit was nice. And Nathan/Sylar in the White House---wheeee! *more fanning* Sylar!Nathan/Peter show down: wheeee!! (I swear I'll get over the squee and to some meta some time soon... really...)

But now I'm all conflicted. :-( If they change the future will we miss out on hotass!Peter? *puppy eyes* I want him to get his scar, yo! Surely they would not be so tease-y mean...

Ok. Thoughts.

It was a fabulous episode, with lots of good plot twists and minimal bad dialogue. I did start getting suss when Nathan seemed so sure of his powers of persuasion over Mohinder. I was temporarily fanwanking it as Nathan's-just-so-hot-in-a-suit-in-the-oval-office-that-Mohinder-can't-say-no. But the Sylar reveal fit far better. He has that uber-confidence regarding his capacity to 'play' Mohinder. Which made it extra-cool that Mohinder double-crossed him. I think that's the first time he's actually done something useful! \o/

I thought the world construction for this 'dark' future was very believable: insurgency, Mr Bennett helping the 'heroes' go underground, the desire for a 'strong' political response and possible genocide. Predictably, for me the least satisfying part of the future construct was the fact that Hiro's angst was all about Ando dying. *eyeroll* (Though yay! my uncanny knack for getting the characters I dislike bumped off continues!) I'm sure it worked for many/most viewers though. And grudgingly, I'll admit that Ando does have symbolic importance for Hiro--without Ando, Hiro becomes someone that current!Hiro can't recognise, and as an ordinary human, he's the personal face of the bomb tragedy. I just still wish Ando himself was more admirable a character, mumble, mumble...

Yay for new Ninth Wonder! But ok, what does it mean that Sylar now knows the future via Isaac? And won't he make a play after Peter's healing powers? It's yay that they saved Claire and all, but if Sylar can get Peter, he's got immunity. (How cool is it that apparently Sylar's so power-hungry he wants ALL POWERS EVER! Hee!) I thought I'd be annoyed that Peter is so pivotal, but hotass!Peter must have mellowed me because I'm finding myself completely riveted. What I really like is the way Peter's involvement works for both/either good or bad: he's the ultimate saviour or the ultimate destoyer.

Incest watch
I was discussing with norwich36 last week the fact that Heroes is bidding to be the most incest-riddled show on TV, and this week served up more examples:
- the good old 'two brothers sexing the same woman' trope with Peter pulling Nikki (niiice!)
- Claire's boyfriend's commentary on her two fathers: one's the man she crushes on from afar and the other's a creepy stalker (*giggle*)
- Sylar masquerading as Nathan had all kinds of creepy potential and his 'it's almost Biblical' call about the brotherly showdown had me on the floor.

I should stop nattering and do some work, but eee, Heroes is fun!
 
 
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Becky: Save the Worldcinderella81 on May 2nd, 2007 01:37 am (UTC)
OMG!! *flails* This ep was SO good ... I really can't do more than bounce when I think about it!!!

Sylar!Nathan was awesome, and I was totally clueless till the scene with Claire!! And future!Peter? Teh Hot!!!!
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Nathanbop_radar on May 2nd, 2007 01:38 am (UTC)
Me neither--I'm all bounce. :-) I have NEVER found Peter sexy until now. I feel like my whole world's been turned upside down...
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the plucky young girl who helps the Doctor: loagnalissabobissa on May 2nd, 2007 02:17 am (UTC)
This future may be dark, but it's sure hot as hell.
Oh, yes! Damn, the hotness of everyone!

I think I put this in another comment somewhere, but -
Dark, sexy, scar-having Peter: totally did it for me. In a bad way.
Dark, sexy, ponytailed Hiro: not so much. I like my Hiro with crazy spikey hair, optimism, his Ando, and a slightly too high voice.

What I really like is the way Peter's involvement works for both/either good or bad: he's the ultimate saviour or the ultimate destoyer.
Well, either way he's going to have some serious emo/angst issues about it.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lois duhbop_radar on May 2nd, 2007 02:20 am (UTC)
Dark, sexy, scar-having Peter: totally did it for me. In a bad way.
*seconds like crazy*

Dark, sexy, ponytailed Hiro: not so much. I like my Hiro with crazy spikey hair, optimism, his Ando, and a slightly too high voice.
Same! What's with that? I like the early!Hiro waaaaay better. (Though I'm personally all for him ditching Ando no matter which 'self' he is.)

he's going to have some serious emo/angst issues about it.
Yes, but now he's found a way to sublimate it into HOTNESS not HAIRLOCKS. *beams*
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Heroes Clairebop_radar on May 2nd, 2007 03:29 am (UTC)
If they bring the emo bangs back, we must write angry fan letters!
Hee. This ep combined with the melodramatic de-'bang'ing by Sylar has me hopeful that they've got the message. *g*

There are NEVER enough icon slots! Never! *stares at my 109*

maybe they get along better with others like them and this somehow transmits to family members as well
Ohh, maybe! I like it. That explains why Nathan and Peter go on and on about being 'connected'. And you're right that the Heroes/Normals relationships don't work so well. Though, I wish they did, since I long wistfully after Zach for Claire... but if they don't then Ando and Hiro are doomed, and they're my anti-OTP in this show. *crosses fingers evilly*
Nora Norwich: Nathannorwich36 on May 2nd, 2007 03:40 am (UTC)
You know, if your Heroic power of getting people you don't like on this show killed works on Ando for real (as opposed to just in the future), I'm going to stop speaking to you. for at least one whole day. Or an hour. Or ten minutes or something. The importance is the SYMBOLISM of it. You should not be using your power for evil! Or to kill off characters I like, anyway. Are you sure you're not really Sylar? If, you know, Sylar had a thing against sexist stock Asian sidekicks who I like anyway?

And hee, I said exactly what you did about Nikki sleeping with Peter after sleeping with Nathan. Though apparently I am immune to the power of the sexass Peter. Well, except when he did the hand-to-hand combat thing; that, I'll admit, was HOT.

Sylar as Nathan was pretty much the best thing ever, though.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Petrellicestbop_radar on May 2nd, 2007 03:48 am (UTC)
I'm going to stop speaking to you. for at least one whole day. Or an hour. Or ten minutes or something.
HUAHAHA. I DON'T BELIEVE YOU! :-) Besides which, I'm sulkily assuming that dead-in-the-future!Ando is the closest I'm going to get to dead!Ando since they're really pulling out the big guns with the Hiro/Ando OTP anvils.

If, you know, Sylar had a thing against sexist stock Asian sidekicks who I like anyway?
Maybe he does... *acts all mysterious* Nah, I reckon Ando's not hot enough Sylar... can you really see Sylar pinning Ando to the ceiling?! o.O

apparently I am immune to the power of the sexass Peter... Sylar as Nathan was pretty much the best thing ever, though.
You know what's really scary?! I'm not sure if I could decide between them. *trembles* It's a close call... but I can take comfort in still finding actual!Nathan the hottest of all... I think sexass!Peter has the power of surprise on his side, whereas Sylar!Nathan was more predictably hot. (I'm a leetle traumatised that I found Peter hot--do you remember when I couldn't even remember his name? *sighs nostalgically*)
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ProgGrrlproggrrl on May 2nd, 2007 03:45 am (UTC)
Soooooo good.
Just watched it again, for all the HotBadAssFuturePeter scenes.

*fans self*

Great ep.

I am worried about loss of H.B.A.F.P., but I'm hoping he'll still get halfway there. Oh, the promise, the promise!!!
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Nathanbop_radar on May 2nd, 2007 03:49 am (UTC)
Re: Soooooo good.
YOU HAVE THE ICON! *jealous*

loss of H.B.A.F.P.
Decode for the clueless? o.O (I don't hang on the boards so I get confused by the lingo.)
Re: Soooooo good. - proggrrl on May 2nd, 2007 01:17 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Soooooo good. - bop_radar on May 2nd, 2007 10:43 pm (UTC) (Expand)
sarmoti: BSG - imaginary Baltarsarmoti on May 2nd, 2007 03:57 am (UTC)
HOTASS. Well put. YES. Milo Peter is cute but has never truly done it for me. But this episode? More please.

If they change the future will we miss out on hotass!Peter? *puppy eyes* I want him to get his scar, yo!

I'm hoping Hiro will slash him (heh) across the face with his sword just to appease the fangirls. Yes, it should be so.

I'm not even sure I comprehended this whole episode or "what it all means" but I didn't care cause I loved it either way. :)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Nathanbop_radar on May 2nd, 2007 05:31 am (UTC)
I'm hoping Hiro will slash him (heh) across the face with his sword just to appease the fangirls. Yes, it should be so.
It should indeed! :-) I'm all for it now. At first when future!Hiro said he looked different without his scar, I eyerolled and thought 'great, that's all we need... Peter with more angst' but little did I know that the scar would be the HOTASSangst!
Becky: kitty omg so cute and pouncysadface on May 2nd, 2007 08:25 am (UTC)
I'd even seen the preview which had a clip of the Sylar/Clare scene, after he had changed from Nathan and I *still* didn't get ut until he shapeshifted - so yes, I thought Nathan had gained the telekenisis power. shut up.

The whole episode left me kind of like, I want the bomb to go off and I want the future to play out this way so I can find out how they all got to that point (and it helps that DL, Micah and Jessica are all bumped off because they annoy the hell out of me).

I don't fully accept Peter's revelation that it was 'all about Ando', point one being that Hiro managed to get the job done after shipping Ando back to Japan and I just think it's more a combination of knowing that physically with the sword, he did not kill Sylar and with his powers of time travel he couldn't stop it, I mean, five years posssessing the capability to go back and change something but just not be able to work out what it was must be incredibly draining.

I really love Heroes a lot :) Do you watch the previews? I AM VERY EXCITED FOR NEXT WEEK.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Hirobop_radar on May 2nd, 2007 09:04 am (UTC)
Yeah, the future was so dark and interesting--I sort of DO hope that the bomb goes off so that we get to explore it some more. I can live without DL and Micah and I'm definitely sick and tired of the Nikki/Jessica wrestle.

it's more a combination of knowing that physically with the sword, he did not kill Sylar and with his powers of time travel he couldn't stop it, I mean, five years posssessing the capability to go back and change something but just not be able to work out what it was must be incredibly draining.
I prefer your take on it! *clings*

I don't get the previews with the dls, so no I haven't seen it. I have no real objection to watching previews for this show though--I should hunt it out. (I'm also still trying to catch up on the online comics.)
amandajane: heroes peter bloodyamandajane5 on May 2nd, 2007 01:08 pm (UTC)
OMG HotassFuturePeter was *so smoking* I couldn't believe it! That fight scene? And all the telekenetic flinging people around, and then throwing fireballs at Sylar? *loved it*

Here's a link to the trailer for next week - it's pretty freaking awesome!
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lois kicks assbop_radar on May 2nd, 2007 10:46 pm (UTC)
The telekinesis was SHITHOT. I loved it! No more wibbling around trying to get his powers under control... but we know he must have worked really hard to get that good. *fans self*

Thanks for the trailer--very exciting! Yay for Nathan dilemma! And so that's Molly--future!Peter mentioned Molly, right?
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Cris: TW - Jackduskwillow on May 2nd, 2007 03:44 pm (UTC)
I loved this episode. The best one this year.
What a depressing, dark future! O_o
And Sylar had me completely fooled!
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Nathanbop_radar on May 2nd, 2007 10:36 pm (UTC)
It was a fabulous reveal. And I love the darkness of the future. So fascinating!
tragicllyhiptragicllyhip on May 2nd, 2007 04:48 pm (UTC)
Ok, now I'm convinced I can't pay attention to anything without Tom Welling, because I sat down and watched Heroes, the entire hour and I'm so damn sure I paid attention, but I don't remember half of what you mentioned happening!..what is wrong with me??
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: TW smilebop_radar on May 2nd, 2007 10:34 pm (UTC)
*giggles* I might be making it up? I only watched it once myself...
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Nathanbop_radar on May 3rd, 2007 06:10 am (UTC)
They're so great--all I've got is squee, you know?! \o/ *g*
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Hirobop_radar on May 4th, 2007 01:53 am (UTC)
*squints* OK, yes, that makes sense... Gah! I hate time travel! It always messes with my mind... ;-)