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18 May 2007 @ 10:31 am
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You guys know how I have been bemoaning the lack of Lee character studies, right?

Well, bananainpyjamas, aka dragonchic, just posted one and I think I died of happy! I'm so flaily, you can't believe. I practically ran around my office in circles flapping my arms. Thankfully I didn't or my co-workers would have dragged me off to the nut house... but, um, yes. *flails*

There are a shitload of good vids getting posted at the moment, and more I want to rec, but ... LEEEEEEE!!!

bananainpyjamas describes the vid as a short trip inside the character's head--and it's very effectively so. She 'tries to convince you that he in fact has a reason to be as emo as he is', which anyone who reads my BSG meta will know is a cause I'm whole-heartedly behind. ;-) While short, the vid charts a lot of emotional territory, and it's passionate, which is perhaps what I love most about it. People diss Lee for being weak, whiny, too self-reflective... but rage and energy and action are as much a part of who he is.

(Oh, btw, don't think that this means I'm going to stop wheedling all and sundry to make Lee vids! ;-) I have an endless appetite for them!)
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DC: Battlestar Galactica - Lee is hottie!bananainpyjamas on May 18th, 2007 01:18 am (UTC)
=O You're trying to make my head explode, aren't you?
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: bsg kara eeek!bop_radar on May 18th, 2007 01:23 am (UTC)
No?!
DC: Battlestar Galatica - Awesome Karabananainpyjamas on May 18th, 2007 01:34 am (UTC)
XD Your icon cracks me up. Oh Kara.

Really though, you're totally inflating my ego here. To have a Lee fangirl/master of meta such as yourself squeeing over something I made is beyond insane. :D

Quick thing though - I actually spell my username with a y in 'pyjamas.' hehe, I stayed true to the original spelling of that wonderfully cracked show. :)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lee frak betide!bop_radar on May 18th, 2007 01:42 am (UTC)
She's cute, isn't she?! Katee has the most expressive face!

And thanks for letting me know, I have fixed the typos. I KNEW I would make some embarrassing mistake, I was typing so fast! ;-) And I always make that booboo with your name--sorry! I won't forget again!
Dionusia: lee looks so lostdionusia on May 18th, 2007 01:53 am (UTC)
Thanks for the rec, K! (And yaaaay for people who dig our dear Leemo.)
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lee owns Karabop_radar on May 18th, 2007 02:23 am (UTC)
Yay, UB, YAY! And lookie, new icon! I call it 'Lee owns Kara'. *beams*
Dionusia: lee duuuuudedionusia on May 18th, 2007 03:53 am (UTC)
I love it! How about this "Kara owns Lee"? ;)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kara owns manfleshbop_radar on May 18th, 2007 03:58 am (UTC)
Cuuute! (and yeah, we know she does..!)
Dionusia: kara lolzdionusia on May 18th, 2007 04:05 am (UTC)
Too bad she's such a brat about it!

(hahaha manflesh)
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dianora: apollodianora2 on May 18th, 2007 02:38 am (UTC)
Oooh, thanks for the rec. And yes, when you see it all together like that, our boy does have MORE than enough cause to be emo, don't you think? His doing it so prettily is a nice bonus...
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lee in darknessbop_radar on May 18th, 2007 02:40 am (UTC)
Yes indeed-y! :-) And really I will never understand why more people don't enjoy the ever-so-pretty emo-ing.
daybreak777: pilotsdaybreak777 on May 18th, 2007 04:21 am (UTC)
Thanks for the vid rec. I'm so glad that you are finding more Lee vids out there. After your Lee squee, I totally support you sending any more recs out there, especially about Lee. He isn't a character I get right away, but the videos focusing on him alone, really help me understand him without the distraction of Kara.

Though the man does look so good in a suit, it is distracting in itself.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Leebop_radar on May 18th, 2007 04:32 am (UTC)
Yay! It's so lovely of you to try and understand Lee even though you don't instinctually get him. *hugs* I'm glad the vids help.

Eyecandy + thinky thoughts = HEAVEN ;-)
daybreak777daybreak777 on May 18th, 2007 04:48 am (UTC)
I can't believe I'm asking this, but what exactly is emo? Seriously, what makes Lee more emo than Kara? Than Adama crying over Boomer's body? Maybe it's the pouting. I can't say Kara or Adama really pout. But the pouting is kind of cute on Lee. Then it's like sometimes he (or Jamie)laughs at himself and is like, "Get over yourself, man." I think it's kind of cute, though I don't fully understand it.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kara/Lee lolbop_radar on May 18th, 2007 04:58 am (UTC)
what exactly is emo? Seriously, what makes Lee more emo than Kara? Than Adama crying over Boomer's body?
HAHAHAHA! That's the best thing I've heard all week. *loves you* I'm with you. Adama is a ridiculous emotional wallower--can you imagine the to-do there would be if Lee poured over Kara's stuff, crying his eyes out? And Kara is angst-girl-extraordinaire. I don't begrudge either of them--they both have more than their share of trauma and grief and personal issues to work through. But so does Lee.

it's the pouting. I can't say Kara or Adama really pout.
Maybe! ;-) Though, I have seen Kara pout, but only in a sexy flirty way--with Lee.

the pouting is kind of cute on Lee. Then it's like sometimes he (or Jamie)laughs at himself and is like, "Get over yourself, man." I think it's kind of cute, though I don't fully understand it.
I agree! There's self-awareness about the pouting! He's got that wry sense of humour about himself. He knows when he's being self-indulgent.

I could write an essay on how the term 'emo' has become shorthand for 'I-don't-care-about-your-problems-get-over-yourself', which seems to be what a lot of fans feel about Lee. Personally I think that's their problem, not Lee's! ;-)
daybreak777: pilotsdaybreak777 on May 18th, 2007 05:14 am (UTC)
Yeah, emo is a term recently come into vogue. I only heard someone say it aloud about eight months ago. I think before that we used to call it drama. I think I get what it means, really, but there maybe is an exasperation when it comes to Lee. Like grow up already. Hey, I think it all the time about Kara but love her anyway. And Kara's easier for me to understand cause she's kind of all out there. Lee does tend to 'emote'. Hee.

People don't care, they just don't get him. No patience. Kara does pout. I think that's kind of cute too. They are such children sometimes in the middle of such war and violence and pain. I love them.
Dionusia: emo cylondionusia on May 18th, 2007 05:24 am (UTC)
Can't resist butting in to agree that BILL IS THE MOST EMO-Y ADAMA-DRAMAQUEEN OF THEM ALL. Hahaha!

I only call him (and myself) 'emo' as a way to deflect my pain that poor Lee is picked on so. ;)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lee is emo!bop_radar on May 18th, 2007 05:29 am (UTC)
BILL IS THE MOST EMO-Y ADAMA-DRAMAQUEEN OF THEM ALL. Hahaha!
The slow handclapping, dude! Those grandiose speeches! I can totally see him singing along to 'The Black Parade'. He'd SOAK IT UP! *lolz*

I only call him (and myself) 'emo' as a way to deflect my pain that poor Lee is picked on so. ;)
Same! I like to adopt it as a term of fondness/humour, because I see it used as a term of ridicule/dismissal/hatred so often and I want to defuse that. Better to embrace it and laugh at oneself. (How very Australian of me!)
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daybreak777: Hee!daybreak777 on May 18th, 2007 05:49 am (UTC)
BILL IS THE MOST EMO-Y ADAMA-DRAMAQUEEN OF THEM ALL. Hahaha!

Dude, total word. I mean the corpse scene, I love Eddie but it was kind of embarassing. Sometimes I'm like, "I don't get it?" The boxing ring? I still don't even understand that speech and gave up trying months ago. It'd almost be okay if he didn't do it multiple times. I'm glad it's not just me, cause I still don't get it.

Seriously, there needs to be an icon for emo!Adama. Or Adamadrama. Hee!
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indigo419: Adamas: Maxim shoot by ilia_valeriusindigo419 on May 18th, 2007 06:21 am (UTC)
heeheeheeehee

Adama-DramaQueen! That *so* needs to be an icon!!
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kara/Lee boxing challengebop_radar on May 18th, 2007 05:26 am (UTC)
Yeah, well the term came into vogue via the music movement. But it has a more specific meaning as a musical genre (and accompanying aesthetic). But because that genre's seen as being self-indulgent and depressive, the term's been picked up and used more generally to mean 'depressed' or 'emotional'. Then, there's also this air of dismissiveness because people find the 'emo' movement somewhat hilarious (even I do--after all, teenagers have always been prone to angst and introspection--it's cute that there's now a specific name for it!). But there's a big difference between being self-indulgent and being genuinely depressed, mentally ill or traumatised. That gets lost in the mix somewhere...

Lee does tend to 'emote'.
Yeah, that's another thing that gets confused in the mix--he emotes in a different way than Kara, and for whatever reason people seem to find Kara's way 'cooler' or more tolerable. Kara clamps down on the emotions that leave her most vulnerable whereas Lee will let people close to him (and the viewer) see those cracks. But having Lee's temperament doesn't equal being self-indulgent, though that's the leap people seem to make. (See--I told you there was an essay in me on this subject!)

They are such children sometimes in the middle of such war and violence and pain. I love them.
Definitely. They're just different kinds of kids. Both of them have their emotional immaturity and their petulance, and really they are young to have gone through all this--to have lost a civilisation. And you can see that yearning for a lost childhood, a lost freedom, because they carry so much responsibility all the time and long to escape it.
daybreak777: blue hillsdaybreak777 on May 18th, 2007 05:39 am (UTC)
Wow, reading your response is like reading notes from Lee's psychiatrist. Is Lee self-indulgent or genuinely depressed? Maybe a little of both? I think he was depressed but I think he's in a different place now. Though the video showed why he'd be depressed. Getting shot, watching your dad get shot, best friend explode, I'm mean the man has been through a lot since the end of the world.

I think he can be a little self-indulgent. Most of the characters have their moments of self-indulgence. They're allowed, they'be been through hell and it's not over. I have such sympathy for most of them.

You need to write your Lee essay. I miss your BSG meta!
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