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22 May 2007 @ 10:49 pm
Heroes 1.23 How to stop an exploding man  
You know, I think I've been falling off the Heroes bandwagon for some time now and the season finale just confirmed that. I got bored, yo! I couldn't sustain interest. I'm sorry, kids, I don't think I'll be continuing to watch this show next season. There are too many better shows commanding my attention--Smallville, BSG and FNL being top of the list. (Have I told you how awesome Friday Night Lights is yet this week?! ;-p)

The season finale began in good old-fashioned Heroes style with a waffle from Mohinder. Now I know why Molly bonded with Mohinder--she's quite as daft as he is. Despite the two men wielding loaded weaponry around, as soon as she saw Parkman she completely relaxed, convinced that he would keep her safe. Before I had time to eyeroll at her naivety, she'd asserted this to the world, and somehow Parkman had magically made them lower their weapons. Some secret power I did not know of?

And does anyone else find the way that Molly insists on calling Sylar the 'bogeyman' really annoying? She knows his name now, dammit! This cutesy little girl act sets me on edge.

Hiro was offered a classic hero's dilemma--to save the life of someone he loves or the lives of many. He got to do both. *yawn* Too easy! I was seriously unimpressed. That scene where Sylar asked if Hiro could 'do his little trick' before Sylar could was ridiculous. Yes, Sylar, yes he can. Why didn't you use some of those brains you spent so much time eating! I couldn't get into Hiro's transformation at all in this episode--it seemed paper-thin and contrived, and killing Sylar seemed way too easy in the end.

I saw Nathan's last-minute save coming miles away--there was no way they were doing all that setting up of him as eviler-than-evil for nothing. Yes, I thought the mutual 'I love you's were the shippiest thing ever, but strangely despite that I found that scene oddly lacking in emotion. Perhaps because the only character I really cared about was getting nuked. All the panning shots of everyone else just made me cranky. Niki/Jessia, Micah, DL, Parkman, Mohinder and Molly all live through the experience? For what? To what end?

And I fully admit I'm pissy at Claire. I really really liked Claire's character in the first half of the season but she's become way more tedious as the 'Conscience of the Petrelli's', and I found the finale a huge cop out for her character in terms of emotional resolution. She gets to realise her true father is selfless after all, and she gets adopted father to cuddle up to for comfort. I'm sure that's very heartwarming, but I kind of just found it boring.

I really was wondering why they felt it necessary, in a season finale, to flash back to Simone and her papa, but I guess the point was the message that 'death is the one thing that connects us all'. Yes, Nathan's death connects us all... *groan* About the only cool thing that came out of that flashback for me was hearing the Petrelli matriarch give her true thoughts on her sons--Peter is weak, and Nathan is strong. I liked that the surface level impression we'd been given in the pilot was so firmly renounced. And I also liked that both people were right in that scene--Simone's dad says it's not inevitable (it's not) and Mrs Petrelli says Nathan's the strong one (yes, he is).

I really didn't buy the twaddle about Peter having a heart that can love unconditionally and the one last thing I was hoping for... that Peter would get his scar and go badass on us... didn't happen. Instead we got a snippet of time-travelling Hiro. Unfortunately he time-travelled to Japan. Oh, yay! Just when we'd got rid of Ando, they rope in a whole new bunch of actors who can't actually speak Japanese.

Colour me unexcited.

HAVE I MENTIONED HOW AWESOME FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS IS?! It has sympathetic characters, good dialogue and consistent characterisation. It doesn't prioritise showy plot twists over characterisation. And (spoiler!) it doesn't nuke it's best character in the final ep of the season.
 
 
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: FNL angry hairbop_radar on May 22nd, 2007 02:18 pm (UTC)
I suspected Nathan might sacrifice himself but I clamped down into denial and hoped against hope that the show might come up with something that was actually cleverer than that. Pah!

I PROMISE I WILL WATCH FNL!!! But I might have to rewatch three seasons of Lee Adama's Hot Manpain"Battlestar Galactica" first :P
That's the best excuse you could make to me. ;-) I'm all for people watching Lee's Hot Mapain. And I'll watch Rome if you watch FNL! ;-) I need to get back to the DVD store and borrow it, actually...
katiebugs18katiebugs18 on May 22nd, 2007 04:04 pm (UTC)
I am so annoyed right now. THAT was the season finale they've been building up to for the entire season?! THAT?! No one dies, no one really fights, nothing really happens! No big bang, no Peter going all badass and we're left with people who, for the most part, I don't care about. DL? Nikki/Jessica? Parkman? Yeah...don't care.

Yeah sure it was interesting to see MamaPetrelli's real thoughts about her sons. I did like that but if I never see Simone again I can live with that. And Nathan coming to the rescue...yeah sure it was nice but everything in the episode was too neat. I think that's my biggest issues, it’s all too neat and clean and it doesn't look like there's any actual repercussions to what happened last night. It doesn't mean anything because nothing happened to anyone. I don't believe for a second that either Peter or Nathan are really dead, especially Peter who obviously has more of a role to play in the "next chapter".

Oh and the real ending with Hiro...WTF?! Are you kidding me? An eclipse? *sigh* I’m so disappointed right now. They obviously built too much into the middle of the season and didn't really have anything left for the end. And it's such a shame. I have more to say but I’m just too annoyed right now.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Nathanbop_radar on May 22nd, 2007 08:49 pm (UTC)
Well, I'm glad I'm not alone in my disappointment. I was seriously 'meh' about it.

everything in the episode was too neat. I think that's my biggest issues, it’s all too neat and clean and it doesn't look like there's any actual repercussions to what happened last night.
I agree. And actually I can see that that's what Heroes has been going for all along. Neat, clean, smartly executed plot twists. And not much more. I guess the plot twists only impressed me up to a point and I'd been waiting for the show to deepen--to get to know the characters better, to see them display some charm and complexity. But it didn't really happen.

It doesn't mean anything because nothing happened to anyone. I don't believe for a second that either Peter or Nathan are really dead, especially Peter who obviously has more of a role to play in the "next chapter".
Oh, lord, I didn't even think that anyone would imagine Peter was dead! Quite clearly he is not. And yeah, I guess they could pull some whole 'Peter manages to heal Nathan because he somehow secretly nicked Lindermann's healing trick' thing, perhaps?

They obviously built too much into the middle of the season and didn't really have anything left for the end.
The middle was the best part of the season, for sure.
Nora Norwichnorwich36 on May 22nd, 2007 05:20 pm (UTC)
I am going to be very, very sad next season. :-( And as I was just saying to Kate, it doesn't even matter if I end up loving FNL, I won't love it in the same kind of way I love Heroes and SV, because it's not scifi, and I seem to reserve my most passionate attachments for scifi/fantasy.

K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Clois hugbop_radar on May 22nd, 2007 07:45 pm (UTC)
Awww, sweetie! :-( I'm so sorry! I do know what you mean--I need my sci fi hit too. I must go read your meta. I found writing mine really tough--I nearly didn't write anything at all, since I think I fell out of love with the show somewhere along the line... but it seemed only right to acknowledge that.
Kate: Adam Brody YESmskatej on May 22nd, 2007 08:24 pm (UTC)
HAHA! You rock. I actually enjoyed it more than you, but I totally agree with everything you say. It's bad, bad television.

(We need to cheer Nora up somehow though. *cuddles her again*)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Nathanbop_radar on May 22nd, 2007 08:26 pm (UTC)
Thanks, Kate! I don't think I'll be popular today. ;-)

And yeah, we need to cheer up Nora! *plots*
Kate: FNL Timmskatej on May 22nd, 2007 08:29 pm (UTC)
Yeah I know. We're mean girls for harshing everyone's buzz, but fuck man, the ol' flist needed a few voices of dissent. There's only so much squee about a shitty show a girl can take before she has to start slapping people. Yknow?
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: FNL Tim and Jasonbop_radar on May 22nd, 2007 08:32 pm (UTC)
I hear ya! Especially because there are good shows out there! As we know...

I had fun with Heroes along the way, but it just kind of crumbled for me at the end.
Kate: The Wire - Stringer Bellmskatej on May 22nd, 2007 08:35 pm (UTC)
For me also. It didn't sustain my interest in any of the characters. I didn't *believe* in any of the characters. Way too shallow for my liking and nowhere near enough charm to get away with it.
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Kate: The Wiremskatej on May 24th, 2007 04:03 pm (UTC)
I could not agree more. I haven't seen the third or fourth season yet but I can't wait. It's one of the most remarkable shows I've ever seen. And STRINGER. =P~
The First Evil: Lee/Laura - By Your Sideasta77 on May 22nd, 2007 10:21 pm (UTC)
I can't say I was bored, but it all left me rather Meh. Somewhere around mid season I began losing interest in the show. It's actually following the same pattern as Lost with me so I wonder if I'm going to just give up all together early next season. Maybe I should have taken it as a sign that Mr Bennet (Noah!) was my favorite character from the very first episode. Or that I feel Hiro is overrated. Right now only Noah ;), Peter, and Nathan keep me tuning in, but if the writing doesn't get tighter and less predictable then they may not be enough to keep me as a viewer. And how sad is it that we had five mortally wounded/presumed dead characters and I'm assuming they'll all be back next season. :/
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Nathanbop_radar on May 23rd, 2007 12:06 am (UTC)
It's actually following the same pattern as Lost with me so I wonder if I'm going to just give up all together early next season
Yes, this show is reminding me a lot of Lost too. And Lost seriously pissed me off in season two. All that contrived mystery and supposed 'cleverness'. *shudders*

Right now only Noah ;), Peter, and Nathan keep me tuning in, but if the writing doesn't get tighter and less predictable then they may not be enough to keep me as a viewer
I feel exactly the same way. While waiting for the finale, I did one of those daft 'which Heroes character are you?' memes and since I figured there was no way I was like Nathan or Peter, I had bleakly assumed I'd be allocated someone daft like Niki. I scored as Noah--whee! Because he is the only character I actually admire at this point in time. Peter and Nathan returned to cutout caricatures of themselves in the finale, imo, but Noah came through reasonably intact.

how sad is it that we had five mortally wounded/presumed dead characters and I'm assuming they'll all be back next season
Heh, yeah I know... though I kind of assumed that Nathan will be dead dead. Surely someone has to be, and he seems the most likely one they'd sacrifice. *grumps*
tragicllyhiptragicllyhip on May 22nd, 2007 10:35 pm (UTC)
While I was bored with Heroes pretty early on, I kept tuning in and there were moments that intrigued me, but in the end, Heroes took almost no real risk and it was as coddling as a mama bear, it was all too easily resolved without much fanfare, I can't believe they drew out a story line all damn season (that could have easily been wrapped up by mid-season--I'm thinking a two arc season is the way to go with Heroes) just to have it fizzle as a after-thought in the end. Just beyond lame, I think its time I disembark here.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lex mysterybop_radar on May 23rd, 2007 12:07 am (UTC)
I'm thinking a two arc season is the way to go with Heroes
I agree. It should have been faster. Drawing it out put too much strain on the plotting. While good, plotting alone can't carry a show without emotional content as well and Heroes failed to deliver in that way for me.
ex_meek386 on May 23rd, 2007 12:20 am (UTC)
THANK GOD I'm not the only one that thinks this way! There's been all this squee-age over the finale and I was all *meh* about the whole thing.


http://meek.livejournal.com/537641.html
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Sylarbop_radar on May 23rd, 2007 12:25 am (UTC)
Oh, yay! I (briefly) agonised about posting this because I figured lots of people would disagree and be all squee. But they are free to ignore me... And it seems a few other people agree that it was seriously anti-climactic. I've been getting worried for a little while--there was a lot of pressure on the finale--and my fears were confirmed.
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Heroes Clairebop_radar on May 24th, 2007 03:16 am (UTC)
That's interesting! I've got other people on my f'list from Texas who love the show. I would have no idea--I have no background knowledge of Texas at all.

I feel like I have to take the good and leave the bad, though it helps that a lot of the disliked characters are killed off.
True! That has been helpful, though I personally just haven't clicked with enough of the characters I think.

I also really, really want to see a next season where Peter is alive (and scarface), he gets Nikki/Jessica's power and Nathan latches onto his body.
Hee! Ok, you're sucking me back in now... if that transpired, it would be cool. :-)

Were people actually surprised by how it ended? I figured out pretty soon that Nathan would fly bomb!Peter into the atmosphere. I mean - foreshadowing much?
Right! Apparently, they were... *baffled*

Some vidding?! Really?! AWESOME!

I think I'm on the fence with Heroes now. It could suck me back in. I was very cranky about the finale, but it still could... it depends who is alive and what happens. I may just not meta it quite so much, but keep watching and se if it picks up.
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Leebop_radar on May 24th, 2007 06:33 am (UTC)
we're friendly and amiable when it comes to discussing race - there are so many different languages, cultures and backgrounds that to pretend people aren't different would be weird.
Right! That sounds more like the culture that I live in in Melbourne. Though I went to a very different school--a snobby private girls school which bordered on racist, imo. I hated it. But my mother teaches in a school like the one you describe.

seeing this mostly white cast and the black people who are presented as a minority, and a minority that encounters negative racism and views itself as a minority with unequal rights and a separate class, it's just - really baffling
Interesting! Thank you! I appreciate hearing that. Although I enjoy the show, I know I have no clue how realistic or otherwise it's portrayal of Texan culture is--I just like the writing and the characters and the 'feel' of it.

I haven't seen much in the way of interracial relationships, though it may just be that I haven't seen much of the show?
No, you're right--there aren't many. That seems like a pretty big oversight if that doesn't reflect Texas today.

the accents really bother me because though they sound authentic, everyone has one, some of them really thick and clunky, which isn't realistic.
Again, I totally have no idea and everyone sounds the same to me! But I know that I find watching shows with 'Australians' on them very very difficult because of the accent disconnect. They are so often exaggerated and pronounced! As for shows like 'Lost' with its absurd Australian connections... *shudders* They got it SO WRONG.

I'm just like - where are the Chinese, Nigerian, Indian, Vietnamese, Filipino, Dominican, etc. people? It throws me through a loop a lot of the time.
Hee! Well that's interesting to me because I too find the lack of diversity--particularly Asian diversity--on US shows a real 'disconnect'. The racial dynamic of Australia is very different, with Asians making up the largest racial minority. But when US shows tackle racism it's nearly invariably about black Americans and I hardly ever relate to it because that dynamic, that tension has a very specific history and the way that identity politics are expressed by the black community (at least in shows!) is very different from the way I've seen issues of racism discussed and handled in my own life.

If I can stop hating iMovie or figure out a way to get Adobe Premiere
I'd go for Premiere! ;-) Do whatever you have to do to get it. I have a Mac and vid in Final Cut Pro--which totally rocks, but if you can't get that, then Premiere. I think finding the right vidding program is more than half the battle.
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: FNL Matt and Juliebop_radar on May 24th, 2007 11:40 pm (UTC)
It seems as if it's set now, or at least within the last ten years. And I agree that it is strange to fast-forward the setting and not change the social dynamics.

I must say I really approach it as fiction, as I have no context on which to base whether it is 'truthful' or 'realistic'. As fiction, it really works for me. I find the characters very compelling. But based on this conversation it sounds as if you could critique the show quite heavily for not being appropriate to its era. It is very conservative in its message sometimes, which I don't like, but I find it interesting to critique the text, and the ensemble cast approach permits a lot of different perspectives to be aired--so sometimes I fume at various protagonists, but I'm still engaged and interested.