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24 January 2009 @ 09:46 am
Smallville 8.12  
You have GOT to be kidding me. Really, Smallville? REALLY?

First, you write Lois as lovestruck, emotional, pining-after-an-oblivious Clark. That was bad, but I was holding out hope that Clark would have a Lois epiphany while she was away.

Well, THAT was a foolish thing to hope, now, wasn't it.

And to make it worse, you actually MENTIONED LOIS in the episode and pointed out how HORRIBLE it would be if Clark didn't consider her feelings at this time. That was so gratuitous--it didn't need to be there and I THOUGHT the scene was there to show Clark taking Lois seriously. No, it was there to up the angst and the ship wars....

Thanks a lot for making Clark Kent a giant jerk and Lois a fool. And for overturning years of really good handling where Clois and Clana were NEVER directly in competition. BIG FUCKING MISTAKE, dudes.

I don't really think there is any coming back from this.

I may or may not write an episode review depending on how this settles with me.

ETA: Spoilers for BSG 4.11 in comments.
 
 
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Call Me OneTrack: daviscallmeonetrack on January 23rd, 2009 11:04 pm (UTC)
Oh I was dying to see what you'd say about this one. I was struck by how similar the Clark/Lana/Lois storyline was to what happened last week with BSG Lee/Dee/Kara in a way (both men going back to their exes because of their insecurities/need for reassurance).
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lois duhbop_radar on January 23rd, 2009 11:10 pm (UTC)
Well I have a massive FUCK THAT response in both cases... ;)

I'm so deeply unimpressed I can't even think about the rest of the episode yet.

Why did BOTH of my shows have to traumatise me like this?!
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Erintigergal05 on January 23rd, 2009 11:11 pm (UTC)
I had a feeling you'd be upset with this one, Boppy. Clark completely regressed in those last 10 minutes. Chloe bringing up Lois was fantastic, but seemed to turn into a pretty moot point by episode's end.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Blair sulkbop_radar on January 24th, 2009 08:03 am (UTC)
Yeah, it upset me. :( Like you I was initially excited to hear Chloe mention Lois but now it seems like they only brought it up to remind us how sad Lois will be.
Erintigergal05 on January 24th, 2009 02:54 pm (UTC)
Well, let's hope we see Lois again, soon. There is a definite void when she isn't there..
svgurl: lois spiritsvgurl on January 23rd, 2009 11:21 pm (UTC)
I was really upset with that too ... at least if Clark didn't know, I could accept it. But he KNOWS and it's like he doesn't care.

I'm heartbroken. I don't know how they're going to make the Clois look believable. :(
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lois reporterbop_radar on January 24th, 2009 08:05 am (UTC)
I don't know how they can ever make it believable now, no. And I just feel it was so unnecessary. It was cheap melodrama! I get that Clark has a lot of emotions to work through with Lana, but I expected to see them do so as friends, perhaps admitting a residual attraction to each other but both keeping level heads about that. Instead it seems like Clark is still totally in love with Lana and just can't move on. And more than that, he doesn't care enough about Lois to even talk to her about HER feelings, which she made so clear. What's he thinking? That she'll just come back and go 'oh well'?! They have to WORK together!

Pfft. Men.
daybreak777: lana - badassdaybreak777 on January 23rd, 2009 11:30 pm (UTC)
Aww, poor Boppy. I didn't pay that much attention to the cop thing. Alessandro Juliani (BSG's Gaeta for those who don't know) was on! Dr. Emil! I kept waiting for more A.J. sitings, I have to admit. ;-)

I feel sad for Lois and I got confused. Why? Because I like Clark. And last year I shipped Clark/Lana. I should have been happy, right? But I also remember Lois' voice when Clark was tortured in front of her and also when Clark left the dance floor for Lana. It's not fair. Even I, the shipper, realize now that Clark/Lana is past. They killed it last year, it can't always be revived. :-(

My spec is they are hooking them up for some superbaby and that's Lana's future as mother of superboy and if that's true I will be SO PISSED. I like babies, generally, but Lana can be so much frakking more than that.

But that's just me. :-)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: DW Sally Sparrowbop_radar on January 24th, 2009 08:07 am (UTC)
Yeah, I wish Alessandro had had more lines. ;) He looked cute as a doctor though.

Your spec strikes enormous FEAR into my heart! I know it's in a different way but I've been invested in Lana's journey for YEARS, DB! And I had a theory for quite a lot of time that her destiny was motherhood. I thought we were past that time, but perhaps not...
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chatchien: Chokechatchien on January 24th, 2009 02:56 am (UTC)
When Clark and Chloe were in the Isis Surveillance Room and the subject of Lois came up, I was confused. What? Why are they talking about Lois? What has she got to do with any of this?

I liked the episode and I liked Lana throughout the episode, but Clark....

He thinks that he can have a life and love outside of hero calling and he runs to Lana...to make her that part of it?

Geez, I don't really think that he is the guy for Lois after all. Lois should just stay gone; it's not going to work out with this Clark. Sorry, Lois, but you picked the wrong guy to romance yet again. If you want a commitment, stick with your career. In this Smallville universe; Clark is not your go-to-guy.

I've got to agree with you there; I don't see any future for Clark and Lois in this AU. But I will enjoy Tess and Oliver; now, that looks interesting.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Oliverbop_radar on January 24th, 2009 08:23 am (UTC)
It seems like that doesn't it? I have to say that between them writing Lois as lovestruck and them writing Clark as unsensitive to her feelings and certainly not returning them in any way, they've totally destroyed Clois. I kind of hate the new writing team. At least Al and Miles didn't do this to us!

Tess and Oliver are really interesting. I thought Tess was AMAAAAAAZING in this episode (and I totally don't see how Lana could have beaten her in a fight), and I look forward to that part of the show.
ext_126905 on January 24th, 2009 05:37 am (UTC)
Agree...Clark and Lana is so very badly written for both characters and this season is Lois's worse I think...I was hoping he'd have an epiphany too but I'm almost convinced they just have no interest in a fun spark filled Lois and Clark relationship.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lois reporterbop_radar on January 24th, 2009 08:25 am (UTC)
Yes, I have come to the same conclusion and I am so disappointed I feel numb. They had so much to work with! Why did they throw it away? Why did they change the entire spirit of the ship in its nascent form? Grrr.
suex on January 24th, 2009 10:17 pm (UTC)
Thanks a lot for making Clark Kent a giant jerk and Lois a fool. And for overturning years of really good handling where Clois and Clana were NEVER directly in competition. BIG FUCKING MISTAKE, dudes.

Its funny how we all see things in so many different ways. I didn't walk away with this feeling at all and never once thought that Clana is going to be in competition with Clois. Possibly because Lana will be gone by the time Lois gets back and by that time Clark may have completely different outlook on things.

I'm also of the opinion that Clark cant explore his feelings for Lois until he completely closes the door with Lana.

Having Lois be a little more sure about how she feels towards Clark is a loose interpretation, I guess, of Lois being in love with Superman in other stories.

Now that the dust has settled a little I'd be interested to know if you still feel the same.


K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!bop_radar on January 24th, 2009 10:55 pm (UTC)
I was completely on board with the idea of Clark needing to get closure with Lana. What I reject is the idea that he needs to resurrect that relationship first in order to do so. His proposal to Lana at the end of the episode implies not someone who is trying to come to terms with why they didn't work out with a couple but someone who believes there IS a way for them to work and wants that more than anything or anyone else in the world.

Having Chloe remind us that Lois has feelings for Clark and that Clark knows that and has maybe even implied an interest himself makes it clear that the two potential ships are in competition.

All I can hope is that this will be the world's shortest get-back-together and that Clark and Lana will break up before Lois even knows they're together. But I still want Clark to be honest with her about it regardless and that's looking less and less likely...

People kept telling me Clark had real feelings for Lois--that he wants a relationship but isn't sure how to initiate it. That just got completely debunked.
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