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19 March 2009 @ 09:13 pm
T:SCC 2.18 Today is the day  
I've been sick this week and when I first watched Terminator this week my thoughts were pushed aside by speechless spine-tingly feelings and so this post is a late response to 'Today is the day' (how great is that episode name?!).


Jesse and Derek
Oh, Jesse! Oh, Derek! Oh, my beautiful doomed DOOMED ship! (note to BSG: doomed in the GOOD way, motherfrakkers!) It was torturous delight to be given so much more of them right before (we know!) they're going to be torn apart. When Derek finds out she killed Riley (and he's SO close to finding out!) ... I can't imagine.

How much do I love them?! SO MUCH that I can actually overcome the *rotfl* reaction I had to the show using 'hooroo' as a poignant 'au revoir' equivalent. Jesse must come from some REALLY alterna!future if she uses that term at all seriously. In all my years in Australia I've heard it used seriously maybe... twice?

But regardless, shippy squee:
- loved seeing them pre-mission and Jesse's 'are you going to be like this every time I ship out?' and Derek in protective mode
- also very interesting to hear Derek be the 'metal is never your friend' voice for once
- love that Jesse knows Derek's worry + kiss = I love you, and that she has no problem saying it back
- Derek sick with anxiety about what's going on with Jesse
- Derek taping up her hands (aww!)

And Jesse squee! The bar scene was awesome. It was smart of her to pick a fight to hide her injuries, but the scene was really well drawn--I actually liked the guy who tried to pick her up--and I liked her snark about reprogramming robots. Even better were the scenes of her in command of a sub. I'm really hooked into the story and presumably we'll get more of it next week.

And Derek squee! I love Derek's uncle role and the way he asked after John when he heard about Riley. Until Jesse kicked in with her articulated view on how to handle (or not handle) Cameron, he was really only thinking about how John would feel. *hearts* Even more love for his 'no good comes out of that, none, not ever' speech to Jesse. He is, as Jesse says, a GOOD man.

I adored the eeriness of the shots of Jesse sitting in the hotel armchairs, twitching.

John, Cameron, Sarah
Interesting to see John react so calmly to moving--he really has changed. Sarah's relief was palpable, but of course he's also changed in how much he hides from his mother and his willingness to pack up the garage allowed him to hide the truth.

I was pleased to see John so serious about burning the parts--but what's really fascinating is that despite that he still protects Cameron from his mother.

Pigeon! (Pigeons seem to be sneaking in to all my shows at the moment?) a 51% chance Cameron wouldn't have killed it, huh? So the repair didn't change much.

The John/Cameron intensity continues. John playing with the destroy button while talking to Cameron. It seemed at first that Cameron had made a mistake in saying she was sorry that Riley was dead--that was something John can't believe because machines don't have feelings. It cast doubt on her other statement: that she did not kill Riley. However, it seems that John believed her despite that. I'm not sure if that's because he wanted to believe that or because he really knows how to read her. His dual belief and suspicion of Cameron are so fascinating and so well conveyed. I loved how his voice broke on 'she told me'.

Sarah hit the most painful spot of all when she said 'just like she told you she loved you' to John. Wow! His reaction was incredible. It totally caught him off guard, and Sarah looked disappointed that that hit as strong a nerve as it did. Afterwards his little flash of rage seemed to be in response to being caught with 'feelings' for her.

Of course, that escalated MASSIVELY in the creepy scene where Cameron mimicked Riley's voice. I do wonder why Cameron took it as far as she did--I think part of it may have been curiosity to see John's reaction, which she found confusing and possibly intriguing.

Should John be alone? He says yes. Cameron says no, but later she says that it is 'John's life' to be alone. Did she just drive him away? Or is this 'alone' that she speaks of confined to other humans--because she says 'humans are the problem'.

I think Cameron is absolutely sincere when she says that her keeping parts is not about her, it's about John. Keeping herself 'alive' is her way of protecting John. John is the point, always. Sarah worries that Cameron is a threat to John. I think she was pretty sickened to have that thrown back at her--and I think it was an interesting reverse of the Sarah-John scene where Sarah hit the hardest emotional blow. Sarah would hate to think of herself as a 'problem' holding John back.

John Henry/Ellison/Weaver
The hide-and-seek was really creepy. Poor Savannah caught up in a game between two machines--her mother and John Henry. Ellison's rage was pretty funny, though once again: HOW can he not tell Weaver is inhuman?! If ever there was a scene where he should have clued on it was the one where a mother seemed to be getting her kicks out of a machine hiding her child. And of course the parallel there was with Cameron--two secret-keeping machines.

I hear that Fox are currently undecided on whether to renew the show or not. I'm REALLY hoping the big finale they're building to will bring the ratings up enough to influence them. And if there are any other Sarah Connor fans out there, please do check out the Save Sarah Connor website: http://www.savethescc.com/.
 
 
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Nora Norwichnorwich36 on March 19th, 2009 10:50 am (UTC)
I just watched it myself tonight, and *thank* you for this: And Jesse squee! The bar scene was awesome. It was smart of her to pick a fight to hide her injuries because I am so damn clueless I could not figure out what that was about.

It's funny, I found Cameron extremely poignant this week, especially that comment about a 51% chance of not killing it. And her honest bewilderment when John was upset about her going too far with the Riley impersonation. It was such an interesting contrast to Weaver's responses when her daughter vanished. (And oh BOY do I agree with you that Ellison should have been able to pick up that something was wrong when Weaver decided to play the game rather than getting upset about Savannah.)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: TSCC Sarahbop_radar on March 19th, 2009 11:01 am (UTC)
:) I'd been thinking all last week that Jesse would not be able to hide the injuries from the fight from Derek. I shouldn't have doubted her! She's cleverer (and more dangerous!) than that.

I agree about Cameron's poignancy. Something about Cameron + bird is particularly touching to me. I love how she speaks to them--she sounds so honestly confused and they're the moments I can be sure come from her because she's all alone, there's no agenda, she's just thinking aloud.

Weaver's eagerness to 'play the game' was creepy--she was delighted in John Henry the way a parent would be, I guess (just the wrong child!).
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!bop_radar on March 20th, 2009 02:21 am (UTC)
I think it's pretty convincing that the one blind spot she has is about envisaging her son alone. I think it would be pretty hard for any mother to accept that vision of her son's future. Not only would she want to be there for him always, she'd want someone else to be there too.

I can totally understand John as well--from an individual perspective it must feel weird all these people worrying about you and protecting you when you're the one that is going to end up being the leader.
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the plucky young girl who helps the Doctor: cameron - text - window birdalissabobissa on March 19th, 2009 06:40 pm (UTC)
Despite the Evilness of Jesse, I really dug all of her scenes this week, especially the ones with Derek. The bar scene was pretty damn awesome, and the scene where Derek gets the phone call about Riley was superb. I just want to hug Derek for being so thoughtful about John, and I was waiting for Jesse to blurt out, "I totally didn't do it!" And the Jesse + lamp scenes gave her a detached, creepy quality that really worked for me.

His dual belief and suspicion of Cameron are so fascinating and so well conveyed.
Yes! I think you are right in that he wants to trust her more than he actually does. Poor John. I think he just needs one person in his life that he can trust completely, and since that's clearly not Sarah anymore, he desperately needs it to be Cameron, who he programmed to be his protector/confidant. he'd do well to put his trust in Derek, but there seems to be more tension there than with Cameron for some reason (possibly Jesse?).

I think it was an interesting reverse of the Sarah-John scene where Sarah hit the hardest emotional blow. Sarah would hate to think of herself as a 'problem' holding John back.
Again, yes! Poor Sarah. She obviously has never thought that she could be a problem or a threat to John. And the realization that John will have to be alone to be a good leader was evidently hard for her, also something she hadn't considered. Considering Sarah has been lonely her whole life, it must be hard for her to think that John will have to go through that as well. But he will have a cause, a mission to consume his life (fight Skynet) just as Sarah has had (protect John).

The Connors just need hugs. And so does this show. Glad you put up the link to svaethescc.com. Hopefully the ratings will keep climbing and we'll get a season three. :D
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: TSCC Sarahbop_radar on March 20th, 2009 02:33 am (UTC)
I just want to hug Derek for being so thoughtful about John
I know! He's such a sweetheart. And I love Jesse, evil or no, so this week's ep was gold fo rme.

he'd do well to put his trust in Derek, but there seems to be more tension there than with Cameron for some reason (possibly Jesse?).
Mmm, that's an interesting question. I think in part it's a hierarchical thing--Derek is subordinate to his mother and I think John senses that messing with that would be, well, messy! I also wonder if there's a bit of awkwardness because Derek has been a soldier in the future already, whereas John just knows he'll become one. The moment between them in the hospital, for instance, when Sarah was injured was interesting in terms of seeing John try to assert authority and then Derek flip the tables on him yet, highlighting his immaturity. There's maybe an awkwardness too from knowing that John will become Derek's superior in the future so being confidants now may seem wrong.

With Jesse I feel more like it's that Derek is distracted with her than anything else.

LOVE your icon!

it must be hard for her to think that John will have to go through that as well
Mm, yes I can understand no mother wishing that for her son and despite all logical evidence to the contrary hoping that can be avoided. Awww, poor Connors and their tough tough fate!
mahaliemmahaliem on March 19th, 2009 08:11 pm (UTC)
I can't believe Ellison hasn't picked up on Catherine Weaver's weird behavior, either. I hope that he'll now suspect something and will lead us to a kick-ass finale (and please let it be a season finale and not a series finale).

I love the glitch in Cameron's chip because it opens up all sorts of possibilities. Cameron's a machine and can't feel, but she's not supposed to be making mistakes like killing the birds, either. In Sarah's argument with John, we were reminded that Cameron told John she loved him. Then Cameron tells John again that she loves him when disguising her voice as Riley's. Was it really just part of the act? Will we ever know what the truth is and what's fiction? Will the Connors ever know what the truth is? (That's my littler shipper heart who loves John/Cameron talking.)

And by Cameron expressing regret at Riley's death, by her reactions to killing birds, is Cameron gaining a glimmering of respect for life while John Henry, despite Ellison's teachings, isn't?

As for Jesse and Derek... Eep!!! Derek's heart is about to get thoroughly trounced.

The whole theme about what and who can you trust? What and who can you believe? It's just making me squee like crazy.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: TSCC Sarahbop_radar on March 20th, 2009 11:26 am (UTC)
I keep thinking Ellison is going to clue on and then he doesn't! And I do get that it's pretty hard to make the mental leap that the petite woman in front of you is a killer robot... but surely he susses SOMETHING?!

I love that Cameron's glitch actually makes her 'more human' but that she sees it as flaw.

Will we ever know what the truth is and what's fiction? Will the Connors ever know what the truth is? (That's my littler shipper heart who loves John/Cameron talking.)
I don't know if we will! And it's AGONISING, even for me and I don't really ship them though I find the tension between them incredible. I think the show crafts it really well because the characters get frustrated with Cameron, not knowing what the truth is, but so do we the viewers, so the experience is so tangible.

Much, much squee re. cleverly explored themes, yes!
chatchien: Doomsday Shoeschatchien on March 19th, 2009 10:59 pm (UTC)
Ellison's rage was pretty funny, though once again: HOW can he not tell Weaver is inhuman?! If ever there was a scene where he should have clued on it was the one where a mother seemed to be getting her kicks out of a machine hiding her child.

Plus, Ellison is supposedly "teaching" John Henry morality, etc (human qualities) and he can't see the similarities in John Henry and Weaver's 'lacking in human quality' responses?

I think that Ellison suspects something. When he is teaching John Henry, he gets a look on his face when John Henry is so literal and not picking up on the human metaphoric message and fuzzy logic. I've noticed that look on his face when he interacts with Weaver.

And it's amusing that John Henry and Weaver have turned Ellison's Socratic dialogues on human values and philosophy into mechanical riddles. Philosophy as the answer to a riddle on a bubble gum rapper, Ellison can't be that innured to their mechanical reduction of things.

T:SCC is my new Good Trash show. I hope that they renew it.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: TSCC Cameronbop_radar on March 20th, 2009 11:28 am (UTC)
I've got to believe Ellison suspects something but I keep waiting for him to act on that suspicion and I've ot nothing!

Philosophy as the answer to a riddle on a bubble gum rapper,
That's a great way of putting it. It's fascinating that they think they need Ellison but then dumb what he has to say right down to a 'game' with a neat little answer that satisfies their mechanical brains.
tariel22: make cupcakes not wartariel22 on March 20th, 2009 12:44 am (UTC)
I finally caught up with this show just the other night, and the last handful of episodes in particular have completely ensnared me. I love how these characters all revolve around John, each with his or her own expectations of who he should be now, and who he should become. And there isn't a single human or machine who doesn't have a BIG secret from someone.

What's happening between Sarah and John is so beautifully done, her love for him at war with her responsibility to the future, his love for her at war with his struggle against a predetermined destiny. It just killed me in the episode with the sleep clinic when we had all those scenes of John being so concerned for his mom, and then it turned out those were the dream. As was the scene of John checking out Cameron in her underwear. Sarah's hopes, Sarah's fears.

I've been fascinated with Jesse since she arrived. I can't even see her as bad, because she's trying to save the world just as much as Sarah and Derek are, she just sees a different solution. But OMG when the truth comes out, I have no idea what is going to go down. The fight between Jesse and Riley broke my heart.

I love Cameron, and Summer Glau's performance. Her choices always have inarguable logic behind them, and John's frustration is palpable as he tries to instruct her in ways she can understand. They have the best conversations!

I'm sorry to go on and on, I've never talked about the show before. *facepalm* I really, really like it. Can you tell? :D
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: TSCC Cameronbop_radar on March 20th, 2009 11:33 am (UTC)
You caught up! YAY! I think the show's really got better as its gone along.

And there isn't a single human or machine who doesn't have a BIG secret from someone.
True, and we also really understand how they came about and why each character is keeping that secret.

It just killed me in the episode with the sleep clinic when we had all those scenes of John being so concerned for his mom, and then it turned out those were the dream. As was the scene of John checking out Cameron in her underwear. Sarah's hopes, Sarah's fears.
I know! That was an incredible episode. I know dream eps are a hard sell but I found the exploration of Sarah's subconscious fascinating and heartbreaking and the crafting of a mother's fears was so well done.

I'm so glad you like it! And yes, every time John and Cameron interact it is riveting. I don't really ship them but I am mesmerised by the chemistry between them. And I think the show's worth watching for Summer's performance alone--she's amazing!

YAY a new fan! *high fives*
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: TSCC Sarahbop_radar on March 20th, 2009 03:46 am (UTC)
I dooooo loooove Derek now! I had that epiphany some time ago, as anticipated, on rewatch of Season 1. It held up SO well to rewatch and I found that now that my anxieties about Derek taking over the show from Sarah have been assuaged, I love both him and the role his character plays on the show in terms of character dynamics.

And I'm totally riveted by Jesse! I neeed to see the end of this story, badly!

My heart is going to break for Derek, I know, and yet I'm kind of looking forward to that? I love how solid their relationship has been shown to be--that's going to make the fallout awful but it kind of needs to be given that the destiny of mankind hinges on who is right!
Jayne L.: sccchillserrico on March 20th, 2009 05:02 am (UTC)
*agrees with everything you said*

This ep made me SO HAPPY.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: TSCC Cameronbop_radar on March 20th, 2009 11:13 am (UTC)
It is just so happy making to have such good TV!
Le courage ne craint pas le crime: Mr and Mrs Luthorattaccabottoni on March 20th, 2009 07:46 am (UTC)
I sincerely commiserate with your week of weakness woes (sorry, been ill long enough I couldn't resist making little corny alliteration about it to cope). *hugs* And best wishes too on the renewal of T:SCC! I haven't watched the show, but I've heard lots of good things about it, it would be sad to see a kickass show with a good female-protagonist to end so soon.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: TSCC Sarahbop_radar on March 20th, 2009 11:15 am (UTC)
Hee! Whatever it takes! And yes, this show kicks ass and it seems so natural that the women are amazing!