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04 August 2009 @ 08:34 pm
True Blood 2.07  
I've got a shitload of work, so have to make this fast, but can't resist squeeing. And Lafayette just stole the show. 'Ain't nothin' good can come out of something so pretty' is so exactly how I've always felt about Eggs. And about Daphne. In this episode, we learn they are both manipulated by a greater evil, who also fits that description pretty damn well. Maryann is very charismatic, and to be honest, I hoped she'd turn out to be a grey/ambiguous character rather than a pitch-black evil character. However, that said, I was glad to finally hear what she really is (maenad)--an explanation that fits perfectly with what we have seen.

Now to what I do not like so much... after last week's episode I thought more about the implications of the orgy scene and I'm definitely not thrilled with them. I want neither Tara not Terry to have rape trauma. Thankfully they seem to have steered away from it with Tara but I worry for Terry. Hearing about it from Arlene's point of view was about as funny and comfortable as they could possibly make that plot, but even so... I'm really NOT happy about this. In a sense the entire town has been raped and as someone who's had a blackout chemically forced on me (drink spiking) I'm finding it hard to fathom that they're taking the blackouts so calmly. And the person for whom it could be most fucked up is definitely Terry. *worried*

Tara definitely helped as a point of view character in this episodes. I thought they showed the difference between and her and Eggs very clearly: Tara can't quiet her curiosity, can't just shrug it off, and can't stop listening to the little voice inside her that tells her that it's fucking weird. Eggs doesn't care and kind of digs it. He's Maryann's perfect puppet, but probably also an unchallenging figure for her.

I wonder why Maryann wanted Tara so much? She's a human as far as we know so couldn't Maryann just mind control her? Was it the Sam connection? I guess it was Sam at first but now she's useful to sponge off for a home? I still find it hard to buy that Maryann cares that much about Sam (surely there are heaps of shape shifters that resist her?) but I can run with the textual explanation, I guess.

There were some predictable 'twists' in this episode: no surprise that Hugo was a traitor (Sookie's initial mindread of him seemed so simplistic), or that Godric really was in the basement, though I was desperately hoping he wouldn't be since that seemed too straightforward.

But GODRIC! YAY! Although, gotta say, not so hot in current timeline, hotter in flashback... or was that just the camera angle? In any case, Eric's tear of tortured vamp pain about him made up for everything. :D Can't wait! I swear if Eric was on screen more I would be at the point where he'd become my favourite, but they keep holding him back just enough that I get distracted away again.

Speaking of favourites... Hoyt/Jessica continues to take out favourite ship BY A MILE. Oh, they were too adorable. I thought Jessica looked absolutely gorgeous in their bedroom chat scene, and their lead up to consummation totally lived up to my expectations. Those scenes were mesmerising.

I cared less about Jason's plot, though I did find his post-coital grin quite hilarious. Sarah is still such a fruitcake I wasn't at all surprised she shot him... so yet another not-really-a-twist twist. That's the one bad thing I'd say about this season: there are far less actual twists to the plot but the show still plays them as if they are surprises. In other ways, I'm loving it, especially in the breadth of the cast.

Bill flashbacks? Not so much. I was glad we got to see their break-up but I don't really understand what brought Bill to that place. I guess it just gradually fell apart... I would have liked to see more of the reasons why Bill started to shift his desires away from her, instead of it being played like it all happened in one scene, but oh well, can't have anything. Hopefully we won't have to see Bill playing B-grade vamp villain any more: it's getting kind of embarrassing since he just can't pull it off. ;)
 
 
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Ariellunar47 on August 4th, 2009 11:31 am (UTC)
this is my totally shallow comment to your commentary: I too agree that Godric seemed hotter in the flashback. Now he just looks like any other young male celebrity these days.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: True Blood Billbop_radar on August 4th, 2009 11:38 am (UTC)
:( I was so invested in Godric's hotness! I'm going to pretend that Eric's blood!tear was for the loss of Godric's looks. :p
Ariel: Tscc Sarah in greenlunar47 on August 4th, 2009 12:04 pm (UTC)
I could have sworn he looked more exotic. I don't know.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: True Blood Billbop_radar on August 4th, 2009 02:12 pm (UTC)
Mmm, I might have to rewatch and find out. ;) I mean it was dark and he was blood-covered and had long hair, but I remember his face more pixie-ish...
Sizequeensizequeen on August 4th, 2009 02:46 pm (UTC)
I swear, I don't even think past and present Godric are the same actor. Past Gidric was small with black hair and tats; the guy in the basement looks like a mid-western frat boy.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!bop_radar on August 4th, 2009 09:59 pm (UTC)
Yeah, was not happy about the frat boy look. I had the same moment but then realised that it could be the same actor just cleaned up with short hair... :(
redteekal: True Blood Ericredteekal on August 4th, 2009 12:36 pm (UTC)
Could not resist posting about this week's episode in my own journal - definitely the highlight episode so far for me this season. I'm just so happy Lafayette's got his mojo back! And yes - Hoyt/Jessica definitely on track for taking out the most adorable ship on ANY of my shows. Yeah Bill as the villain vamp was more amusing than any way creepy scary. Eric has it all over him. I can feel a whole lot of Eric/Godric shipping coming on too.

Edited at 2009-08-04 12:37 pm (UTC)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: True Blood Sookiebop_radar on August 4th, 2009 02:14 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I fell for J/H so fast but honestly wasn't sure it would sustain for more than one or two eps. But wow! TOO cute!

Bill cracks me up. He's so... Bill. He really can't do the whole Angelus/Lestat/Eric thing.

Eric/Godric! Eric/Godric!
deaver: Thornton Profiledeaver on August 4th, 2009 05:05 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the excellent squee. As for Tara, I really wish she would connect the pieces faster. I think it's because I'm finding the whole Maryann story-line dull in the extreme. *yawn*

Jason's plotline is only now getting semi-interesting, and only because he was such the over-protective brother. I'd love to see if he ultimately ends up siding with and fighting on the side of the vampires both because of love for his sister and because of his previous vampire interactions. Seeing him finally stand up for something other than sex or being the golden boy would be nice character growth.

I LOVE Hoyt and Jessica. How did they so quickly become the show's heart?

Bill's flashbacks? *yawn* I actually fast forwarded through most of them because they were so awful. Of course, I barely tolerate him in the present day scenes so hating the flashbacks isn't that surprisine, I guess.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: True Blood Tarabop_radar on August 4th, 2009 09:57 pm (UTC)
Yes, I've been frustrated by Tara not joining the dots too. Maryann's storyline has dragged, as has Jason's and part of that has been the lack of any surprises in either--they've both just tracked slowly to an obvious end point. Hoyt and Jessica are definitely the heart of the show! I do like Bill in the current day--I find him amusing--but he'd be a terrible bore to share eternity with. ;)
Laura ☂: trueblood: Pam is HBICstarryeyedmagic on August 5th, 2009 08:30 pm (UTC)
Lafayette is awesome.

or that Godric really was in the basement, though I was desperately hoping he wouldn't be since that seemed too straightforward.
It's not. That part (as well as most of everything that Sookie does) is directly taken from the book.
Did you find it odd that he just kind of leisurely walked right in when he's supposed to be kidnapped?

It's funny, I feel like I hear both sides about Godric's hotness, lol. Some people think he was hotter in the flashback and some people think he's hotter now. I think he's just hot all around. ha.

Hoyt/Jessica are ADORABLE!

I feel like Jason probably wasn't shot with a bullet. There's just too many other things going on for him not to be fine. There's no time for him to go the hospital and almost die, haha.

I agree about the Bill flashback. Did he just wake up one day and decide to not be evil anymore? I thought they were going to emphasis that Lorena was a bit crazier than most vampires are and that she "raised" him the wrong way. And when he realized that not all vamps were like that he spent 70 years trying to atone...like Angel, lol. I think that's still vaguely the gist but it just seemed so abrupt.

And lol Bill starving himself was stupid. I mean, he could have just glamored her and then she probably would have had a good time if all he did was bite her. He didn't have to kill her or anything.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: True Blood Sookiebop_radar on August 5th, 2009 10:15 pm (UTC)
Did you find it odd that he just kind of leisurely walked right in when he's supposed to be kidnapped?
Oh yeah... true. Ha! Chalk that oversight up to being massively overworked and rushed this week. ;) Good call!

I think he's just hot all around. ha.
:D That's so funny! Clearly he has some innate hotness so hopefully with more than one or two mins screentime it will come out in whatever 'look' he has.

I feel like Jason probably wasn't shot with a bullet.
Oh, yeah, I agree. I'm totally expecting that to be a fakeout.

Did he just wake up one day and decide to not be evil anymore?
Yeah, I know, right? Bing! Lightswitch! o.O I agree, I get the gist, but to be honest my own mind had already filled in that blank more convincingly than they showed in the flashbacks so they were a big zero.

I did find it HILARIOUS when she said that Bill would run off into the sun and burn for Sookie... because we know he would! he did! And his whole 'I'm not suicidal' was perfect at showing how blind he is to himself.

he could have just glamored her and then she probably would have had a good time
True, there was no grey area... it just was so black and white. It makes a little bit of sense to me because I feel like Bill is someone who wants a black and white world but is constantly sliding backwards into grey. And I do have issues with glamouring... I find that to be assault in its own right, ok, better than being killed but it seems to do longterm harm and it's kind of mindrape, right? But it would have made much more sense if Bill had slowly become more uncomfortable with the killing and moved to letting people go after a bit of fun first, BEFORE his big epiphany.

Laura ☂: trueblood: sookiedownstarryeyedmagic on August 5th, 2009 10:54 pm (UTC)
Chalk that oversight up to being massively overworked and rushed this week. ;) Good call!
haha it's not that smart of me. I just already know what the deal with Godric is from the books (assuming that they're keeping it the same, and it looks like they are).

I did find it HILARIOUS when she said that Bill would run off into the sun and burn for Sookie... because we know he would! he did! And his whole 'I'm not suicidal' was perfect at showing how blind he is to himself.
lol he's such an idiot sometimes, with such a death wish. What good would it do Sookie if he just dropped dead? He's not old enough for that kind of heroics(running out into the daylight). You'd have to be at least as old as Eric for that to be even remotely feasible, haha.
And Godric could probably save Sookie in broad daylight easily, haha!

but it seems to do longterm harm and it's kind of mindrape, right?
I think it only has longterm effects if it's done repeatedly to you. If it's just a few times I think that would probably be ok.

It's totally mindrape though. BUT it's kind of necessary. I mean, in a food chain kind of way. Synthetic blood didn't come out until recently and before then vampires would have to survive somehow.
Now people pretty much give themselves over willing because some do enjoy it. I'm sure they would have in the past too but no one knew vampires existed. I'd think they'd have to glamor some people just to keep their secret.

It doesn't make it right but I guess if a person has a good time being bitten and then was glamored into forgetting it happened (for the sake of secrecy) it wouldn't be the worst thing ever. LOL definitely better than being murdered.

Bill just doesn't use logic. ha.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!bop_radar on August 6th, 2009 01:00 am (UTC)
he's such an idiot sometimes
I know! I get the sense a lot of book readers find these aspects really infuriating but as-played-by-Moyer, I find them endearing. I'm constantly thinking fondly'Oh, Bill! You are so limited!' *pats*

Godric could probably save Sookie in broad daylight easily, haha!
Interesting! I hadn't been that clear that their powers improved over time in a way that made it easier to tolerate daylight.

Now people pretty much give themselves over willing because some do enjoy it. I'm sure they would have in the past too but no one knew vampires existed.
Yeah, I totally see why vampires have the glamour thing in their arsenal, but its continued use in the current environment is more problematic, isn't it? It will only become increasingly so as vampires are 'out'. No wonder people fear them so! If I wanted to be bitten by a vamp, I wouldn't want to be mindwiped into forgetting it afterwards... or I'd want to agree to that first (and then it would be very masochistic of me!).
Laura ☂: trueblood: LICKstarryeyedmagic on August 6th, 2009 07:15 am (UTC)
I still find Bill being an idiot (in this respect at least) to be amusing. But you know, later on if certain things occur...it'll probably be less amusing.

I'm pretty sure that the older a vampire is the more resistant they are to pretty much everything. They just generally become faster/stronger/more durable over time. It's like the opposite of humans really.

The daylight thing comes specifically from the books though. I won't say exactly what happens (this is book 7) but there's a point when something BAD happens during daytime hours and Sookie has to get Eric and Pam out of a building. She wakes up Eric easily enough but Pam just wouldn't wake up (she's only supposed to be a little bit older than Bill, I think?)
Soon enough Eric was alert and was able to do some pretty daring things that might have been hard even at his full strength right in broad daylight (all while taking care of an unconscious Pam). He was a bit shakey but he managed.
It was seriously impressive.

I wouldn't want to be mindwiped into forgetting it afterwards... or I'd want to agree to that first (and then it would be very masochistic of me!).
But is it? I mean, yes by definition being willingly bitten to the point of bleeding would be masochistic, BUT vampires actually have this healing stuff that they can secrete when they bite you so that it doesn't have to hurt that badly. I think it's used during sex a lot. It's something like that, I'm a bit fuzzy on the details though.

lol it was probably just created so Sookie seemed less masochistic, but that doesn't make it any less real in the series.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: True Blood Billbop_radar on August 6th, 2009 09:50 am (UTC)
Interesting!

by definition being willingly bitten to the point of bleeding would be masochistic
Well, yes, but I actually meant the bit about willingly agreeing to be mindwiped. I mean... if you got off on vampire's biting you, wouldn't that be the whole point, that you remember it? It's like agreeing to have sex and then getting mindwiped afterwards. Why bother? It makes it all about the other person because you won't remember getting anything out of it.

this healing stuff that they can secrete when they bite you so that it doesn't have to hurt that badly.
Huh. That has totally not been mentioned in the TV series. I wonder if they intend to reveal it eventually or if Alan Ball thought it was too lame to bother with?
Laura ☂: trueblood:  eric+pam > allstarryeyedmagic on August 6th, 2009 05:01 pm (UTC)
It's like agreeing to have sex and then getting mindwiped afterwards. Why bother? It makes it all about the other person because you won't remember getting anything out of it.
haha no idea. That's why I think that rarely happens currently. Unless there was some really good reason for it, whatever that would be.
But I guess I was just saying that if something is consensual and a good time for both parties but then one of the parties leaves with no memory...well, there are worse things. lol like murder. It's just the least "bad" thing a vampire could do.

I wonder if they intend to reveal it eventually or if Alan Ball thought it was too lame to bother with?
I doubt they'll ever bring it into the show. Why bother? I think we all got the point that some people enjoy being bitten without emphasizing how non-painful a vampire could potentially make it, haha.

It's just more backstory on the Sookie-world. There's tons of little tid-bits and things like that. A lot of it isn't remotely significant, but I find it interesting sometimes. A TV show with 12 eps per season can only tell you so much. They wouldn't want to go overboard on the details.

9 books at 200-something or 300-something pages a piece can cram in a lot of information, lol.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: True Blood Sookiebop_radar on August 6th, 2009 11:17 pm (UTC)
*nods* got it! And yes, the details are interesting though. I'm interested in the world building of the universe, I guess. There's a lot of stuff that is conveyed visually in the series which is cool, but there's less capacity for exposition on points like that.

Oh and been meaning to say: I love your weekly Eric posts! ;) And I think I'm one of those slightly anxious about Eric/Sookie people as I feel the Weight of Expectation that I will ship them. But don't think Im closed off from it! I just honestly haven't actually seen a flicker in that direction on the show yet. I'm a bit worried that now they are telling us Eric is interested in Sookie but not showing us. I'd find it hard to buy that way. Perhaps it's just a shoutout to the book fans?
Laura ☂: trueblood:  esbloodstarryeyedmagic on August 7th, 2009 04:56 pm (UTC)
Well, I don't think you're supposed to really ship them much (right now) on the TV show. Even in the books, they really didn't have that much interaction before this point either. But they're about to!

And Eric's "interest" in Sookie right now isn't supposed to make much sense because it's not based on knowing her (at this point). You know how he told Lorena that there's something "different" and "more than human" about her? Well, there is. But I'm sure they won't reveal that for some time.

So when Eric sees her he feels an attraction. A chemical one that he doesn't feel for most humans (or anything really) and it confuses the hell out of him. And it has nothing to do with her being pretty (although I'm sure that helps, ha) or her personality (because they've barely interacted at all).
Eric is very guarded and thinks of himself as "above all that" feelings stuff now, so the idea that she can affect him in any way is troublesome (to him).

But that is just where their "relationship" starts. Once they actually do spend time together and realize that they "get" each other, trust each other, and have the same sense of humor (lol or they're at least supposed to) then it slowly becomes something more than just about what makes Sookie different, much to their chagrin. (Most of their relationship is DENYDENYDENY from both sides.)

For example, when they first met at Fangtasia in s1 when Eric summoned Bill and Sookie over, it's probably because he smelled her from across the room. He didn't just think "Oh, who's that pretty girl that Bill's with?" (although I'm sure that crossed his mind too). I'd bet the second that she walked in he was like "...WTF IS THAT SMELL?" (lol but in a good way).
This also explains why in 2.03 he was leaning over her bloody back all aroused with his fangs out. He's over a 1000 years old, a person with cuts shouldn't normally have much (if any) affect on him.

So, there's a reason they're telling and not showing first. It's very much plot related.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Stephanie Meyer sucksbop_radar on August 8th, 2009 12:01 pm (UTC)
*pats the Eric/Sookie fan* I gotta say, I hate the 'she smelled special' trope (thanks to Meyer!) but no worries... in my head, in the TV show 'verse, he's intellectually curious about her. And hell, she stood out like a sore thumb in Fantasia, I'd have called her over too.
Laura ☂: trueblood: Pam is HBICstarryeyedmagic on August 8th, 2009 02:44 pm (UTC)
HAHA it is NOTHING like what happened in Twilight.

It's not like "Sookie's blood smells special to Eric" LMAO....no.

It's just that all supernatural creatures (literally ALL, even Sam) can smell a difference between say a vampire or shifter or...other things. That's what it is, I promise. It is in no way specifically related to the Sookie/Eric ~bond~ or some other ridiculous thing like that.

Every vampire Sookie comes into contact with notices it a little bit, but Eric's a little more attune to things cause he's older. That's all.

haha I apologize profusely for ever making you think of Twilight.

What I meant is that he was intellectually curious about her because he just sensed an "Other-ness". Something that he doesn't normally come into contact with. And the idea that there could ever be a new experience for him in over a 1000 years I'm sure would be exciting.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Ameliebop_radar on August 10th, 2009 10:13 pm (UTC)
Oh thank god! :D That sounds fine. And I admit to feeling some actual chemistry between them (!) in the latest ep.
Laura ☂: trueblood: eric bloodstarryeyedmagic on August 10th, 2009 11:30 pm (UTC)
I think it's just hard to explain things correctly since I'm trying to avoid spoilers at all costs. haha. So I have to really tip toe around what I'm trying to say.

But it's kind of like how Lorena tasted something different in Barry. They never actually reveal if Barry is "the same" as Sookie (beyond the telepathy) in the books though. But only because we never got that much backstory on Barry.
But it's definitely something I've always wondered about him. And it seems like the writers of the show have made it a possibility too.

So I guess it's just lucky that Eric didn't meet Barry first. HAHA

It's great that you saw some chemistry between them! It was nice that they actually got a scene alone together (this was the very first time that ever happened!)
I also loved that we got to see more of the Eric everyone knows from the books. When I'm reading I feel like Eric is smiling/smirking and making witty comments ALL THE TIME. And because he's been so moody over Godric this season we haven't really seen the "fun" side to him. Which is totally understandable given the situation, but it was a bit odd considering the fact that the audience didn't know Eric that well before they saw him have all this angst to deal with.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!bop_radar on August 12th, 2009 12:45 am (UTC)
Thank you for tiptoeing!

It's clear to me on the show that Barry IS the same as Sookie! And I find Sookie's supposed 'specialness' pretty grating, TBH. I wish all those guys (Eric, Godric, Bill, Jason...) were rushing around protecting BARRY! :p (I like Barry.)

Eric was adorable in the last ep. I am behind that Eric! But I looooove his moody-over-Godric!emo too. It's hilarious. (But then they're my ship.)
Laura ☂: trueblood: askars bwstarryeyedmagic on August 12th, 2009 02:00 am (UTC)
Just for something to think about, I noticed while working on this week's Eric's picspam that Eric licked his lips and Godric really obviously gulped when they were talking to Jason.
That could mean nothing at all, or it could be because Jason and Sookie are family. hmmm.

I LOVE Eric/Godric. But um....lol there's no way I can explain why they're not really my OTP while still tip toeing. (I'm thinking of something specifically Godric-related, it has nothing to do with Eric/Sookie).
I think we can talk about it after next week though.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: spoilerphobic!bop_radar on August 12th, 2009 07:41 am (UTC)
Godric is going to die, isn't he? :(((( PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS. I need my week of hope.

I will never forgive them.