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08 November 2009 @ 07:20 pm
Smallville 9.06 Crossfire  
Yeah, so, people, I hate the Clois. HATE. I just about combusted with rage at the kiss. I am so incredibly not on board with this. They've lost every iota of chemistry they ever had with me. To the point that I totally ship Lois with Oliver now--I always did like those two and they retain their chemistry for me. Whereas I absolutely hate the way Lois is written around Clark these days. Also, I desperately wish Clark had a plot this season... why are we never in his point of view? It's really pushing me 'out' of him again at the time when I felt most connected with him and most excited about his hero prospects. :(

Seriously, Oliver is the only character I give a damn about on this show any more. I would care about Clark but they never ever show us his perspective. Like where did that kiss come from? He felt a pang of jealousy seeing her with Ollie? I don't buy that that would tip him over the edge--he didn't even do anything last season when he really did feel something occasionally for her--and I haven't seen much more than mild, slightly patronising amusement from him this season. He at least needed to think he was seriously at risk of losing her. Whereas ACTUALLY he knows she's in love with both sides of him: Clark AND the Blur. And the writing team are choosing to focus on the part with least chemistry. We haven't had a phonebooth scene for ages...

Thanks, crappy writing team. Thanks a bunch.

Of course they're going to press a big reset button on all that happens here anyway so they needed to give me a plot I could actually care about, something I wouldn't want to see reset... but you know what? The sooner this is over and Lois stops being a fickle lovesick schoolgirl the better. RESET NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW, please! Save me from this misery.

I honestly didn't expected to be THIS unimpressed with this season. On the other hand, the Oliver material continues to exceed my expectations, so unless you want to hear about how great Oliver is (and I'm guessing only about three people want to hear that), you won't be seeing much in the way of Smallville meta from me until this horror is over.

ETA: I do find it loltastic that Zod brings his own colour scheme with him wherever he goes, including Metropolis's only cafe. I also love that Mercy upstaged him by finding coffee elsewhere and thus not submitting to his washed out crappy colour scheme (at least that's totally what that cross-road coffee toast was about in my head! *g*
 
 
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daybreak777: sunrisedaybreak777 on November 8th, 2009 09:09 am (UTC)
Oh noes! Almost combusted with rage? I wasn't sure how shippers would feel about it. That kiss was a surprise for me. I'm getting more and more ready for Oliver to plant one on Clark than this. Now that would have been interesting. ;-)

RESET NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW, please
Wow. Asking for a reset. That's not a good place that the show has brought you to. Sorry, Boppy.

Me and this show are not long for each other, I think. The episodes feel incredibly long to me. When the 28 Days Later ep is standing out in my mind as memorable (heck, I like zombies :-)), then yeah, Smallville we have a problem.

Was there Justin torso? Yes, I think there was. :-) Hey, I've watched shows for lesser reasons. Long live torso!

Edited at 2009-11-08 09:09 am (UTC)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Oliver chestbop_radar on November 8th, 2009 09:53 am (UTC)
I'm in a bad place with Smallville, DB.

There was much gratuitous torso. It was beautiful. That's the one thing that keeps me coming back... It is totally beyond me how Lois could turn him down. He's a great guy... honest, heroic, attractive, funny, they have loads in common and he worships her. And that's before you even get to the torso! *blinks in disbelief*
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Leebop_radar on November 9th, 2009 03:43 am (UTC)
Yeah, I'm miserable about the Clois. I'd nearly give the show up.

I think Oliver definitely still had genuine feelings for Lois. I think Lois is far more likely to get used by Clark who seems very inconstant in his affections. Sorry! I hate that the writers are writing it like this but they really haven't shown that Clark is serious about Lois, and since she's his best friend, he needs to be REALLY serious to risk losing the friendship. :(
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Clex here with youbop_radar on November 9th, 2009 03:45 am (UTC)
Yeah, it's totally WTF. Just not in a fun way for me any more except when Oliver is on screen. :)

the show doesn't look like it's being put together with papier maché and toothpicks anymore
Wellll.... I don't know. They do only have that one cafe. Oh sorry, one silver table and chair set... and the colouring work is worse than ever. Visually it's never been less interesting to me.

My glass half full is definitely Oliver.

Call Me OneTrack: Kara: whatevercallmeonetrack on November 8th, 2009 03:28 pm (UTC)
Sigh. I haven't watched yet and figured I should read this to see where on the rage-incredulity scale I might be this week.

Clark is the most boring and passive superhero ever. Honestly.

And I don't understand why they suddenly rediscovered Lois/Oliver. What happened to Tess/Oliver?

I approve of torso however.

And the coffee bit made me think of your Java vid!

Edited at 2009-11-08 03:29 pm (UTC)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!bop_radar on November 9th, 2009 03:47 am (UTC)
Oh, just to be confusing, this was last week's episode... not this weeks.

I'm totally fine with the rediscovery of Lollie... I don't really think it negates Tess/Oliver since Tess/Oliver is all about Tess having Ollie whipped, and the Lollie is more like the Clana to the T/O Clex. ;) I always could deal with that. But then I've been a SV multishipper for many a year.

There was much coffee! :D I really should remake Java Jive some time. :)
Call Me OneTrack: Pirate!Tighcallmeonetrack on November 9th, 2009 04:32 am (UTC)
Yeah I was two episodes behind. Watched them both today. Wasn't interested in this past Friday's at all. AT ALL.

I'm just didn't think there was a Lois/Ollie thing anymore... And then it came back. And I guess I just don't have a clear idea on what he feels for Tess anymore. Eh not that it matters I guess... Not when he gets to sit at his computer all gratuitously shirtless for deep and meaningful conversations. LOL.

Note to self: SV: You're overthinking it.



Edited at 2009-11-09 04:35 am (UTC)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Oliver chestbop_radar on November 9th, 2009 04:38 am (UTC)
LOL: I always do too!

Not when he gets to sit at his computer all gratuitously shirtless for deep and meaningful conversations
Wasn't that the BEST?! :D :D :D There was NO REASON for that! None at all! I suspect Oliver of being a wannabe nudist. :p
Call Me OneTrackcallmeonetrack on November 9th, 2009 04:41 am (UTC)
I actually chuckled out loud when I looked up and saw he was at his desk half-naked. Ha ha. It should get its own special credit: "And Justin Hartley's Torso."
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Oliver chestbop_radar on November 9th, 2009 04:44 am (UTC)
It kinda does. He does that arms-out 'what?!' look half-naked from Tess's bed in the credits. ;)

Oliver Who-Needs-Clothes? Queen
Ferd: Lois- My Lois moved to Gothamferdalump on November 8th, 2009 04:01 pm (UTC)
I am SO in the same thought camp as you with this one. With the scenes with Lois/Oliver shown so closely to the Clois ones, it only proved how far superior their chemistry is. I mean I wanted them to kiss, and instead I got a out of nowhere, fully tacked on Clois kiss. Bleh. And you're so right about Lois, and it pains me to even write this since you KNOW I love and adore her. But yeah, the way they are writing her is just saddening. They have served to remove all of her backbone and a great deal of her brain cells, and have her being batty eyed, and air brained every time Clark is around. WTF? I fully expect them to start showing her writing 'Lois and Clark Forever' on her Daily Planet notebooks and then draw a dozen hearts around it.

I have always cared more for Oliver than Clark which is sad considering whose show it is. (And maybe it's the similarities between the Bat and GA) but I just feel Justin has MILES more talent than Tom, and the writers actually seem to reward him with something to do. I think when Justin and Erica have scenes together (and even share a panel together at a con) it looks like they're actually having fun. But with the Clois--it just feels awkward, and dare I say painful to watch? Granted, I am not a fan of SV Clois and never really felt they should end it there in regards to the show, but I just feel watching it like an egg timer went off somewhere in the writing room and so they broke out their pencils and added on a kiss at the end of that episode. The aftermath we've seen thus far is even more lol-tastic too, IMHO.

Considering how much I LOVE Lois and was over the moon to see ED get more screen time and episodes this season, (and the jerk in me a bit happy to see them head towards Clois to sort of close the Chlark door once and for all for those who think Lois is not Lois) I have to say I have been wholly disappointed in what they have given her to do this year. I didn't mind seeing Lois show her heart, and occassionally wear it on her sleeve. But this schoolgirl with a crush thing they are playing out (which has her as fickle as one going "Ohh I love Edward! **reads on to page 20** "Ohhh Jacob savvvvvvvvved her! I love Jacob!") has me really just wanting to reach for the remote. It's sad that after this long, the show is just spinning out into a place very much 'meh.' And honestly, I'm scratching my head a bit over people who seem to be loving it so much. I guess I just feel like, I fully understand wanting your ship to happen and being thrilled to get kisses et al, but IMHO, I only want my ship if the writers treat the characters with respect, and take them there in a plot which makes sense, and not just because someone said that it's time. :(
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Clois runbop_radar on November 9th, 2009 03:55 am (UTC)
I *see* why your Lois moved to Gotham. Seriously!

With the scenes with Lois/Oliver shown so closely to the Clois ones, it only proved how far superior their chemistry is
I knoooooow! It was agony. I was clutching my knuckles and muttering 'oh please, oh please!' in the Lollie scenes and I didn't see the Clois kiss coming at all!

They have served to remove all of her backbone and a great deal of her brain cells, and have her being batty eyed, and air brained every time Clark is around. WTF? I fully expect them to start showing her writing 'Lois and Clark Forever' on her Daily Planet notebooks and then draw a dozen hearts around it.
I knooooooooow. *sobs* What have they done to my Lois?!!! It's like she's season 1-2 Chloe or something! I went back and watched some earlier season Lois as therapy and thank goodness I discovered that it's ok, it's not ALL Lois that has been spoiled for me. It's just this season's Lois. The contrast was even more obvious actually.

I honestly do like Tom's acting, he's grown a lot, but Justin is a completely underrated and amazing actor and his acting is very similar to Erica's in that he has the capacity to be very funny and very emotive--sometimes at the same time! He works hard, like she does, and takes the role really seriously. I know Tom does too, but Clark is a more understated character. I really appreciate Justin's and Erica's work on the show, especially considering they weren't permanent for so long, and I think they have tons of chemistry.

I am totally wincing in every Clois scene now! I just try to get through them with my soul intact. LOL. which is not something you EVER want to say about your own ship! But I guess I don't feel that the Clois they are showing us is consistent with or good for either character... so how can I possibly invest in it? I guess there are limits to my shipperness after all! I didn't know that!

LOL at the Twilight analogy! So true! I do NOT LIKE fickle!Lois. Are people loving it? Of course there will be... I'm always at odds with fandom. Sigh. I honestly thought if I got Clois, I'd be happy, but I just like my ships to be character-centred and consistent with the characters the way I fell in love with them in the first place.
RivkaT: nice is different than goodrivkat on November 8th, 2009 04:05 pm (UTC)
What I just can't get over is the absolute Mercy = Lex equation. Lex should be there doing all this! As much as I enjoy her chemistry with various parties, especially Lois and Chloe, I can't watch now without thinking about how wrong it is that she's there and Lex is not.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Missing Al and Milesbop_radar on November 9th, 2009 03:57 am (UTC)
So true. I do enjoy Tess but I'm still surprised they went for straight replacement... it does make Lex's absence far more obvious.
good work, zombie arm: Smallville - Chloe lookdowntrelkez on November 8th, 2009 07:28 pm (UTC)
On the other hand, the Oliver material continues to exceed my expectations, so unless you want to hear about how great Oliver is (and I'm guessing only about three people want to hear that)

I would totally read that!

I do find it loltastic that Zod brings his own colour scheme with him wherever he goes

That is never not funny. Never. My assumption is that it's somehow meant to convey how they can't interact with the sun? So instead of being in the usual bright palette, they're all desaturated, no sun for them. Which means any time Zod's desaturated filter kicks in we're in his POV, which is kind of interesting ... but it's also hilariously random.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Oliver chestbop_radar on November 9th, 2009 04:01 am (UTC)
they're all desaturated, no sun for them
LOL! No sun for you Kandorians! :D It's so clunky, that's all... even though the Smallville production team have nearly completely abandoned their classic saturated look anyway, it still looks out of place on SV. And since I'm finding Zod kind of a fifth wheel in this season so far (I mean has anything actually HAPPENED in his plot yet?) I just crack up whenever he appears... like they pasted a bit of some other show on for lols..

I should really go hang in an Oliver comm. I feel bad inflicting my fannishness of him on all the people on my f'list who haaaaaaate him. But... but... he's so great! Justin amazes me every week. I want to vid him so bad.
good work, zombie arm: Smallville - Lois smilestrelkez on November 9th, 2009 04:09 am (UTC)
I'm finding Zod kind of a fifth wheel in this season so far (I mean has anything actually HAPPENED in his plot yet?)

He featured in the most recent episode, but I don't know if you've seen that yet?

I should really go hang in an Oliver comm.

Are there good ones?

I feel bad inflicting my fannishness of him on all the people on my f'list who haaaaaaate him.

I ... really? Admittedly my flist isn't SV-heavy, but I didn't realize he was popularly disliked. I think he's great. I've been enjoying this season quite a bit, and it seems like other people haven't as much, and maybe one of the disconnects is that I'm definitely an Oliver fan. (And yet I have no Oliver icons to use for this comment. All I can ever find are Chloe and Lois icons.)

I want to vid him so bad.

Yes, pleeeeease. I've been very tempted to vid him myself, but I lack a song and there are so many other things in my queue, including three SV vids already.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Oliverbop_radar on November 9th, 2009 04:42 am (UTC)
Nah, I'm a week behind.

Who knows re. Oliver? I'm a bit out of touch. And my f'list has a lot of old Clex fans and Clark fans so they aren't predisposed to like the new kid on the block... I think in general there's been quite a lot of terriorialism from SV fans about Oliver. They don't like him being held up in contrast to Clark (even though I usually think that serves Clark well). And I think they're scared it will become less Clark's show with him around. I don't think that's necessarily the case at ALL, but sadly this season we really have seen a lack of good Clark content, so I can imagine people are even more annoyed with Oliver getting screentime. Whereas I'm very happy to see Oliver get it too... I'd be even happier if Clark had some awesome plot material as well but I'll definitely take what I can get. :)

Three SV vids? Whee! Something to look forward to!
good work, zombie arm: Smallville - C/L Lex talkstrelkez on November 9th, 2009 06:34 am (UTC)
And my f'list has a lot of old Clex fans and Clark fans so they aren't predisposed to like the new kid on the block...

But he's been around for what, three seasons now, going on four? Admittedly I was predisposed to like Oliver from the beginning as a) I liked Justin Hartley as Aquaman and was stoked they worked him into SV and b) Green Arrow has long been one of my favorite DC superheroes.

I've liked some of Clark's stuff this season. I haven't found it particularly earth-shattering, but really, last season was so terrible that this season by comparison has a long ways to go before it starts disappointing me too much.

Three SV vids? Whee! Something to look forward to!

I promised someone a really facepalmingly earnest Lex-POV Clark/Lex vid that's due for the holidays, and then I have a sort of dark Clark-POV Clark/Lex vid (maybe for VVC premieres?), and a multisource Clark/Lois dual-POV vid to do at some point. Oh, vidding. My queue only ever gets longer, no matter how many vids I make.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Bop_radar TWbop_radar on November 9th, 2009 09:16 pm (UTC)
Hahaha, well SV fans can be stubborn! ;) But yay! Yes, I loved Justin as Aquaman! I was thrilled they co-opted him and he's such a talent. And Green Arrow is my kind of hero too.

And hey no argument that last season was pretty abysmal. :) At least this season has Ollie--and oodles of him. I'm thrilled that they actually wrote his plot seriously this season instead of having him lurch haphazardly from ep to ep last season.

really facepalmingly earnest Lex-POV Clark/Lex vid
exxxxxxxcellent! I love those! :D

Wow, the others sound very interesting too! And I feel the pain of the queue... mine too balloons ever outwards. And at the moment I'm kind of trying to unblock myself a bit, and I wind up making these vids I don't really even care about that much. Arrgh! But hey some vidding > no vidding.
brokenmnemonic: Clois - Squishybrokenmnemonic on November 9th, 2009 03:30 pm (UTC)
Hmm. Hmm. 'K.

Yeah, I don't think I'll be watching this season. It doesn't sound like a show I want to watch at this point.

*goes back to watching the Community pilot*
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Aishwarya lanternbop_radar on November 9th, 2009 09:11 pm (UTC)
Ah, yes, those glorious days shown in your icon are far gone... alas
brokenmnemonic: Clois - Fate!brokenmnemonic on November 9th, 2009 09:13 pm (UTC)
At least I'll always have my video - it's probably a good thing I made it when I did, before I became (more) jaded...
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Clois catchbop_radar on November 9th, 2009 09:18 pm (UTC)
You know I'm not even that jaded... it's more that I just feel a complete emotional disconnect with them this season. I mean there is HEAPS of Clois. Clois is kind of the main plot... so lots of stuff to vid, but the dialogue is shit. And I'm just not feelin' it. *shrug*
brokenmnemonic: Clois - Strange Timebrokenmnemonic on November 9th, 2009 09:20 pm (UTC)
If it doesn't have the quirkiness, the equality, the push and pull between them that brings out the best of each even if they don't realise it, then what's the point? Tv's full of relationships involving one or other person turning witless around the other person... Clois should be better than that. Lois is certainly better than that, and the current series sounds like sitting down to eat crunchy nut cornflakes and discovering that bran has been served up instead.
Enderenderwiggin24 on November 9th, 2009 07:59 pm (UTC)
I totally ship Lois with Oliver now
hahahah, finally, you have seen the light!!!

err , so I am not really the comforting , hugging type, but my aunt made me christmas cookies, I will share with you if you do not combust??
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lois duhbop_radar on November 9th, 2009 09:08 pm (UTC)
Re: I totally ship Lois with Oliver now
Hee! Bribery, I likes it. :D
legendsinlovelegendsinlove on November 9th, 2009 09:27 pm (UTC)
Yeah...there's a reason I haven't posted my thoughts on Crossfire yet. Not to say I hated the Clois but I was massively underwhelmed/disappointed.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Batgirlbop_radar on November 10th, 2009 07:07 am (UTC)
It's been a real struggle for me to post anything about this season. I feel incredibly underwhelmed.
tasabiantasabian on November 11th, 2009 03:40 am (UTC)
I do find it loltastic that Zod brings his own colour scheme with him wherever he goes, including Metropolis's only cafe. I also love that Mercy upstaged him by finding coffee elsewhere and thus not submitting to his washed out crappy colour scheme (at least that's totally what that cross-road coffee toast was about in my head!
LOVE! Must go back & rewatch for this.

Also, I desperately wish Clark had a plot this season... why are we never in his point of view?
This is my biggest caveat of this season - there can be exceptions, but I truly feel the show is at its best when we see through Clark's eyes.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!bop_radar on November 11th, 2009 06:27 am (UTC)
LOL, icon!

Yeah, I honestly (naively) expected more Clark POV this season... maybe I was fooled by Tom being producer? But also I felt they were in a really strong place with it coming out of Season 8 (even though 8 had its ups and downs). I thought it was setting the season up to be about Clark's journey but so far not really.
Be cool, Gail. Be cool.: [sv] oliver/loisamathela on November 11th, 2009 05:48 pm (UTC)
On the other hand, the Oliver material continues to exceed my expectations, so unless you want to hear about how great Oliver is (and I'm guessing only about three people want to hear that), you won't be seeing much in the way of Smallville meta from me until this horror is over.

I want to hear that! I love Ollie, and I seriously ship Oliver/Lois. (I shipped them right from the beginning, and I'm not sure I ever stopped, honestly.) Damn it, why can't we have that again? And I totally agree with you about the chemistry.

And now this whole chemistry conversation has me really regretting that Brian Austin Green was so criminally underused. He and Lois were awesome, for the entire scene and a half he was on the show - WTF was that, anyway?

I do find it loltastic that Zod brings his own colour scheme with him wherever he goes, including Metropolis's only cafe. I also love that Mercy upstaged him by finding coffee elsewhere and thus not submitting to his washed out crappy colour scheme (at least that's totally what that cross-road coffee toast was about in my head! *g*

Oh, my god, me too! I could not help laughing at the Zod!colour scheme, seriously. Maybe he hasn't lost his superpowers, he's just ... substituted them for really crappy, useless ones instead?

He may be a 'superior being' or whatever, blah blah blah, but clearly Mercy > Zod. It is proven via means of visual effects, which clearly are the closest thing to a reliable narrative Smallville has.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Oliverbop_radar on November 14th, 2009 01:28 am (UTC)
Oh, god, so true--BAG was criminally underused! And yes, visual effects being the closest thing to coherence Smallville manages (and not even that coherent since Al and Miles left), I do have to say the signs are there that Mercy will PWN Zod, even though really she is very silly. I mean I watched the 'Kandor' ep last night and in it she seemed hopeful that they'd all turn out like Clark. But I was all 'dude! have you SEEN them?! They're all deformed in comparison to his uncanny good looks. And looks dictate so much in this universe. Abandon that hope NOW!'

When Oliver (some eps ago) said 'we were so good together' about Lollie, I so completely agreed. I always enjoyed them and I think they really are good for each other, or would be if Lois took her eyes off Clark. I could forgive Lois for loving the Blur, but to pass Oliver over for Clark is unthinkable and makes no character sense at all. If she'd turned Oliver down for other reasons (she thinks he needs to get back on his feet on his own more first, or she doesn't think she can hack the double life), then I would have been more accepting. But it defies belief that she can be such good friends with Ollie, have heroes as her 'type', have been heartbroken over breaking up in the past, have no one else to hook up with (since she thinks Clark is not interested) and still turn Oliver down

God, I love Oliver so much. I am just pouring over old Oliver clips and footage all the time now, and especially over Lollie, to anesthetize myself against Season 9's Clois.
Be cool, Gail. Be cool.: [sv] oliver/loisamathela on November 14th, 2009 01:37 am (UTC)
I could forgive Lois for loving the Blur, but to pass Oliver over for Clark is unthinkable and makes no character sense at all.

Definitely agreed! There are a lot of good reason I could see for her not wanting to get back together with him (and, selfishly speaking, a lot of good reasons they should get back together), but ... Clark? Him? Seriously?

Honestly, I mean ... I love Clark/Lois, theoretically. But I hate the way it's been done, pretty much ever since they decided to go for it. (There have been awesome moments, true, but enough terrible ones to offset them.) Ugh, there's a reason I enjoy shipping non-canon ships so much sometimes. Or ex-canon ships, which have far less chance of being screwed up by future canon.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lollie yogabop_radar on November 14th, 2009 01:41 am (UTC)
but ... Clark? Him? Seriously?
The thing that really annoys me is that she's been down that path last year! Last year, she overtly had a crush on him, put out feelers to see if he did too and realised it was a deadend. Who keeps hanging on for a dude that is not really that interested in you for a year after that? Even despite crushing on someone else (the Blur)?! That makes no sense! And Lois is too practical (despite her romantic soul) to really do that.

There have been awesome moments, true, but enough terrible ones to offset them
Totally! It's like there's some cute moment or scene and then it gets slammed down under the weight of bad writing and nonsensical characterisation, and kind of cheesy, ordinary mainstream canon-ship-ness. I am all about Clois but seeing it handled so badly is definitely more painful to me than just imagining it in my head. They're making it actively harder for me to hang on to my own version of Clois...