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08 January 2006 @ 03:56 am
BSG: so much love!  
Herein the ramblings of a blissed-out insomniac newly converted BSG fan at 4am in the morning post-'Home (Part 1)'...

OMG! So. Much. Love.

I'm sorry Smallville fandom. I love you dearly, but the kerfuffles make me sad - and frankly I'm premenstrual, the gym was closed, and I need to get my endorphins where I can!!! So today I boycotted you (kind of... not really *g*).

Cut for spoilers up to Episode 6 Season 2
Basically everything I have to say is summed up by 'So Much Love' but I'll take my squee a little further than that and express my delight that a sci-fi show of such intelligence and depth is being created.

Season 1 was wonderful in establishing some of the shows unique qualities - a fearless commitment to showing the consequences of human failings, character-driven plots that are pacy with genuinely unexpected plot twists, philosophical and political themes that are challenging and are explored with refreshing honesty. And absolutely brilliant casting and acting. Every character is well-rounded, unique, flawed yet has their own charisma.

Season 2 has taken the show to a brave new place. I love the scale of the drama and the bleak self-destructive atmosphere. Having three separate locations of action in the first eps of Season 2 was incredibly exciting.

I engaged with the show intellectually early on - that was my first real 'hook' in. My second, unconscious one, brought to my attention thanks to fellow-watcher supacat, was Apollo. After tonight's viewing of the first six eps of Season 2 I am massively emotionally invested in the whole show. There's barely a character I do not care about and I have immense love for most of them. Ok, Gaius excepted!

Total squee paragraph: Starbuck and Apollo and so insanely hot that I may die. They need to fuck right now and a lot and onscreen. The kiss in Home Part 1 may be the hottest kiss I've ever seen. *is twelve* More intelligently: I have rarely if ever seen a male-female dynamic with so much complexity and equality that does not have classic romantic stereotypes as its foundation. They have a destined quality about them and yet an agonising distance between them (perfect perfect symbolism of this in Home Part 1 with the wire fence between them). I am very much in Apollo's experience of their relationship - I get all bitey fingernails that she doesn't really care for him... But thankfully I have supacat putting me right from the Starbuck camp's pov!

Sharon... fascinates me and freaks me out. The scene at the end of Season 1 where BSG!Sharon goes to the cylon ship and meets the other Sharons was oddly unexpectedly very reminiscent of Neon Genesis Evangelion for me. (I think because of the whole part-biological machine thing and clones. At least they weren't floating headless in a tank - thank god!) Very very creepy. I love the questions she raises ethically, personally and politically.

I love the President and I love Apollo's connection with her. It amuses me to remember that I found her irritating in the mini-series. 'Who is this old woman and why would I care that she has breast cancer??!' Hee! She's such a fabulous politician - it's a masterful character study.

Adama breaks my heart. I at once admire him, love him, dislike him and am angered by him. (OMG - I am Apollo.) I love his model ship and the scene I've just watched with Dee (sp?) where she tells him that it's time to 'put this family back together'. Go Dee! She's wonderfully understated. Her 'maybe you asked to talk to me because you think I have nothing to say' line was great.


Oh! I'm so squee-y! I cannot sleep...

norwich36 - where are you? come and make me be intelligent about this!! ;)

*goes to sleep dreaming of Apollo*
(curses to anyone that spoils me!)
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Alison: clarkamoracampbell on January 7th, 2006 07:38 pm (UTC)
Damn, we've lost another one!
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Clex bitter endbop_radar on January 7th, 2006 11:25 pm (UTC)
Heh! It's ok... I'm just a tease! ;)
*points at icon*
Kate: Maggie!mskatej on January 7th, 2006 07:49 pm (UTC)
OMG you're up to season two already? I can't read this because I'm only halfway through season one and I don't do spoilers, but I am completely in love with BSG. It's *so* good. I don't think I've loved a character as much as I love Gaius since, I dunno, since I read Catcher in the Rye. BSG is complex and fascinating and dark, and although there are a couple of actors I'm not huge on, I love the show a lot.

You're not allowed to leave Smallville, Boppy. I love you way too much to let you go. The kerfuffle is over and I promise never to start a kerfuffle again. You can love BOTH shows.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Clex bitter endbop_radar on January 7th, 2006 11:32 pm (UTC)
Kate! Yes! Do not read. Do not spoil. And you must watch more BSG soon. It is so incredible and gets so much *better*.

Don't worry. I will be the last person to leave SV fandom. *points at icon* I'm just teasing! And you are NOT to feel guilty about the kerfuffle any more, ok? It's over! (as you said)

I may quite possibly take up dual-love though. No - I already have.

And when you've seen more, you and I are going to have a very interesting conversation about Gaius - because I'm fascinated to know why you love him so much. I think that rocks although *teeny tiny voice* I kind of ... hate him? eep! Of all the characters he enrages me the most, although he is undeniably human and fascinating. I'm dying to chat to you about it, as the show is so multi-faceted and clearly you've tapped into an aspect of it (in him) that I haven't - I want to know what the 'hook' about him is!!

*hugs*

God. Season 2 is blowing me away!
Katemskatej on January 8th, 2006 12:24 am (UTC)
Hmmmmm... why do I love Gaius?

Because he's *interesting*. He's not good and he's not bad. He's selfish, he's cowardly, he's intelligent, he's a liar, he's a womaniser, he's easily manipulated, he's funny, he's pathetic, he's, omg, I could go on forever. I love him because it's just such a *rich* creation. He's complex. I have no idea what he's going to do next but the show is so well written that whatever he *does* do feels perfectly right and in character. I *adore* the actor. He doesn't play it for laughs or to be liked. And yet, it's a beautifully comic character (and at the same time, the darkest character on the show because of the key role he played in the destruction of humanity) and it's impossible not to like him just a little bit. Yeah, you hate him too. But... Gaius. There is *nothing* like him in any other show I've seen. Okay, I'm behind you, I've only just started on BSG, but Gaius's story is the one I'm interested in. It's utterly thrilling (and I can't say that about any other character in any other show I've seen since Buffy).

I will most *definitely* chat BSG with you. Although you'll have to be careful not to spoil me. I'm up to about ep 8 I think (S1).

Okay, more rambling.

I'm not big on Jamie Bamber (yet) and although I *like* the actress who plays Starbuck, I don't find her that *convincing* in the role. I love Mary McDonell as the president. LOVE her. She's a stellar actress with a really quite extraordinary, multi-faceted role to play. I love the Old Man (can't remember his name right now) - he's perfect as the captain because the actor has natural charisma. I'm HUGE on the blonde cylon who control's Gaius. I love the chief. Oh man, we have a lot to talk about.

*molests BSG*
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Clex be with mebop_radar on January 8th, 2006 03:22 am (UTC)
I will absolutely under no circumstances spoil you and I love you so much for replying!

I understand what you are saying about Gaius - that's great! I agree that he is *extremely* well-written and well-acted and I can really understand how you can just be in love with the fact that his character has been created somewhere. He's an incredibly brave character to show and write - and I love that about the creators of the show. It could have been so risky to build so much of the plot around a character so flawed - but yet it works wonderfully. So I understand your attraction to him intellectually but don't have that instinctive response to him emotionally myself. In me, he provokes this visceral rage because he damned humanity through his own ego and failings: through stupidity and human failing on the small and intimate level, not the grand 'trying to do the right thing' traditional tragic route. I adore the show for showing that at the same time as having rage against him for it being SO real and SO true that if humanity is ever damned to extinction it will be because of people like Gaius. (And just so we're clear I don't feel morally superior to Gaius at all and I'm sure some of my rage against him is self-directed rage at human failings that we all have, me included.)

I think it's just genius that this is a show with so many unique characters that people can really latch onto different ones and have equally full experiences of the show. And because every portrayal is so well-rounded I can understand intellectually the interest in other characters, even if I don't feel it myself.

Not spoiling - my first hook in with the show was with its general intellectual/philosophical exploration of ideas - Gaius's plot included. Six (the blonde cylon) fascinates me too. And, like you, I LOVE the president and the actress who plays her and agree that Adama (Old Man) is an awesome actor to play the role of the captain. Where we differ is that I hooked into Apollo (Jamie Bamber's character) early on - actually I didn't even notice I was really doing it until supacat called me on it. She massively fangirls Starbuck so it became obvious when I didn't. I didn't really *get* Starbuck as a character in Season 1 until she explained things from her pov. That made me realise how skewed my reading of the show was because I was really *in* Apollo's experience of things. Just by some fluke of attraction I think. It's not just the physical thing because I find the actress that plays Starbuck more sexy than Jamie. But the way his character was written just got me. See - hee! we have a lot to talk about! It was great talking with Cat - now I get this double view of everything because she explains Starbuck, I explain Apollo ... and you can explain me the Gaius! (eventually maybe!) Oh and I don't love the chief that much either but again I totally get how you could and how he's interesting.

*totally molests BSG also*

I have SO MUCH LOVE. I'm on such a major high from it!
Katemskatej on January 8th, 2006 04:28 am (UTC)
Yes, under normal circumstances i would say that we're not *supposed* to be attracted to Gaius, given his status as amoral, villainous, catalyst to the downfall of humanity, bad bad man etc, and yet, this show isn't normal, and they cast an actor who is inherently likeable (a wonderful choice; I love it when shows/flms do this, because it makes it that much more difficult to put the character in a box).

Now, my personal love for Gaius - and I think I have a fair idea of where the character is headed - is multifaceted. Love for a character in tv/film, first and foremost, comes down to the actor, and I am in LOVE with James Callis's *incredible* interpretation - it's brave, intelligent and witty. It's a dream role for a clever actor. But also, I'm attracted to Gaius in other ways - not sexually, especially, although I appreciate his sexuality, which is a big part of the character and a reason I find him compelling. But his intellect and importance (given how few human beings are left, someone like Gaius *is* important) and the fact that he's *so* flawed, *so* human, makes me sympathise with him, even when he's being despicable. Again, I think the natural charm of the actor is a major reason why Gaius is so effective as a character. Because we're forced to relate to him. In many ways, he's the most *normal* main character. The others are the captain, the captain's son, the best pilot, the president etc etc. And although Gaius is a genius, he also feels like an everyman and he simply can't be stereotyped. For me it's a mix of marvelling at the show for creating the character and loving the character because he's truly original. I get giddy every time he has a scene.

Jamie Bamber? I can see why his character is appealing, but I don't care for him as an actor. He just doesn't convince me, but I'm told he gets a lot better.

Right, I must go to bed. It's half four in the morning. *is tired*
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!bop_radar on January 8th, 2006 11:29 pm (UTC)
I agree that the casting of Gaius was very good, though I personally don't respond to him the same way as you. Gaius as everyman is something I can really get into about him. However, I question his status as genius. Have you seen the mini-series? (I check in case you haven't.)

I don't have any history with Jamie Bamber - never seen him before. So to me he *is* Apollo and I think he's brilliant. I find him far more charismatic than Gaius, but that's just me - as you say, it really does come down to a personal connection/response to the actor's portrayal. I don't find Gaius likeable or attractive - rather the opposite: he creeps me out. But I love that! Either way he provokes a really strong reaction in the audience which shows what a good job the actor is doing.

I think the girl who plays Kara (I don't know her name) is great too, though it took longer for me to see the subtelties and layers in that role. At first I found her a bit one-dimensional. I won't say much more on this as both Kara and Apollo get more development later on, whereas Gaius gets a lot of time early on. *g*
Nora Norwichnorwich36 on January 9th, 2006 12:04 am (UTC)
Oh, wow, you're already halfway through season 2? (Or at least, the half of season 2 that's out already?) Pretty soon you will pass me up, because I didn't watch the very last episode of season 2, knowing it would have another cliffhanger of evil, and I won't be able to watch the rest of season 2 until it comes out in September or December or something!

And I'm not sure I'm up to making you be intelligent about this, yet, because I'm still pretty much on the level of squee! myself.

It's interesting that you didn't connect with Laura Roslin on the miniseries, because I think she was actually the first character I connected with--I loved her sparring with Adama in the miniseries. I think the other character I connected to first in the miniseries itself, ironically, was Baltar. I generally agree with Kate about the fascinations of Baltar as a character--how he is, in a strange way, everyman, stuck in a series of roles he doesn't really know how to cope with. I think you're right that he is vexing *because* it is his petty human flaws--not the grand tragic ones--that brought down the human race.

And yet, that's part of the theme of the show, right? It's the little things, the things we do to make our lives easier (interlinking our computer networks, or creating artificial intelligence, presumably to serve us, or putting backdoors in computer systems to score with pretty blondes, or lying to protect our girlfriends who we don't know are Cylons--that's not just Baltar but also the Chief and Helo) that destroy us in the end.

One thing I've been telling my non scifi watching friends, to try to get them to watch the show, is how the whole thing is a post 9-11 metaphor (and in a very US-centric way, too, I think--does that part drive you nuts?): it's all about the huge disruptive event, and the internal enemy who looks like us and could be any one of us, and the military v. civilian control of the government, and even, I hate to say it, the interesting employment of religion by a president who is not only using it strategically but is actually a true believer.
(Though Laura Roslin comes off a lot more sympathetic doing this than the Bush administration).

Actually, the religion thing is in some ways the most interesting part of the show for me. I *love* the fact that the good guys are polytheists and the bad guys are monotheists. And I love Roslin's own religious transition, and how even when she is a true believer she still remains very shrewd in the way she uses religion, and that she has the sense to be uncomfortable with being revered.

One thing I love about season 2 is how, in addition to expanding the mythology, it really shakes up everybody's roles and we get to see a lot more about the minor character (like Dee, and Lt. Gaeta). That scene between Adama and Dee was excellent, especially in how she refused to let him silence her, and called him on his assumption that she would just listen and not talk back. Another thing I liked about season 2 is how it really gave Tigh an expanded role. He's another character I would hate in real life but really enjoy watching on screen.

K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!bop_radar on January 9th, 2006 05:50 am (UTC)
Yup! Seen six or seven eps of Season 2 I think. Apparently the ep that just aired had another big cliffhanger. Don't think I'll quite get up to that one tonight - it's a work night so I'll have to be sensible. Boo!

Wow! Seems like we had a very different reaction to the mini-series. Most of my Gaius hate comes from that - the implication that he was *not* in fact a genius, that Six had simply given him the information/done the work for him - and therefore the idea that he was the sort of man who was willing to abuse a woman's professional life and intellectual property in this way really put my back up with him from the start. From then on, all the decisions made based on the idea that he was a 'genius' - including the one that resulted in Helo being left behind - just made me scream in agony. Of course once Season 1 settled in, I got more used to him being around and I enjoy the intricacies of his plot and what it explores about the themes of the show as a whole.

The whole way the cylons have targetted men in particular is fascinating to me. And the archetypes they use are also interesting. Six works on men like Gaius but would have no hold on the Chief or Helo, who respond more to the quiet 'niceness' of Sharon. But both of the women hook the men in soo well. I can't help but feel the Cylons are purposely targetting men as the 'weak link', at least in the first round. Of course, we don't know who else may be a cylon - but so far no cylon men have been shown to have such extensive control of a human woman. (The subtle gender politics of this show are sooo great!)

Yes it's interesting to read it as a post-9/11 metaphor although I think it can only be read that way in a limited sense. I do think there is a difference between a race-survival scenario and a stable population being terrorised. But, yes, it does explore a lot of similar themes - I would have thought I'd kneejerk against Laura Roslin's turn to religion for that reason, since I believe strongly in the separation of state and church. In many ways this show challenges my leftist politics and I think that's good because there is a *reason* why left governments are not considered effective in certain scenarios (e.g. war) and if the left doesn't face that and address it then the predominance of right-wing governments in Western democracies will continue.

I totally agree about Roslin. Her ambivalence yet determination with mixing religion and politics is fascinating and makes her sympathetic even when she's doing something I don't agree with. I loved Lee already, but he stole my heart all over again when he defended her and her government by pulling a gun on Tigh (sexy!) even though he didn't agree with what she was doing. That was a real dilemma for me - because I do think Church and State should be separate (so had sympathy with Adama's dismay, even though I think Adama had other reasons for arresting the government). Like Lee, when it comes down to that versus democracy at all though, maintaining a civil leadership structure as well as a military one is the more important objective. *sigh* Oh, he's my hero! *is pathetic* God it was great when he pulled that gun on Tigh! I loved how he eventually admitted the ultimate pointlessness of this act though - in prison with Laura he admitted wryly that it was 'ultimately for nothing' but that's who he is - those are his principles and I adore that he stands by them. So much, in this splintered society now comes down to individual decisions, so all beliefs are relevant and powerful. I love the way the show demonstrates that time and time again.

Yeah - Tigh is also fascinating. His backstory was great. Ellen drives me nuts though - she's my least favourite character - the one I find least-sympathetic and not as well-rounded as the others. But it's interesting to watch him. I loved the scene when Adama came back out of hospital and Tigh confessed he screwed it up and Adama 'makes it look so easy' and Adama replies 'well now you know that's not true'. The exploration of what makes a good leader is truly fascinating. Both Tigh and Lee doubt themselves as leaders. Without Adama you have to wonder what *would* happen, because Tigh really really did screw up!

Oh I could go on and on and on... *g*
Nora Norwichnorwich36 on January 9th, 2006 07:12 am (UTC)
Wow! Seems like we had a very different reaction to the mini-series. Most of my Gaius hate comes from that - the implication that he was *not* in fact a genius, that Six had simply done the work for him - and therefore the idea that he was the sort of man who was willing to abuse a woman's professional life....From then on, all the decisions made based on the idea that he was a 'genius' - including the one that resulted in Helo being left behind - just made me scream in agony.

Well, I did watch the first incarnation of Battlestar Galactica back when I was a kid, and although I don't remember it very well, I did know that anyone named Gaius Baltar was going to be a bad guy and a traitor, so I guess I was actually impressed by the way they made him a somewhat sympathetic traitor. I mean, yes, he was clearly sleazy and manipulative and a jerk about women, but I guess I empathized with his complete shock when he realized what he'd done. I did absolutely hate him when Helo seemed to be sacrificing his life for him, but then--to my complete amazement--they didn't actually kill off Helo, and while that was certainly not due to anything Baltar did, it meant I didn't necessarily have to hold it against him. Actually, for most of season one I felt vaguely sympathetic toward Baltar, and also deeply amused by all those scenes where he's talking to Six and everyone else just thinks he's mental. It wasn't until around season 2 partway in that I started really thinking he must die or bad things will happen.

The whole way the cylons have targetted men in particular is fascinating to me.... I can't help but feel the Cylons are purposely targetting men as the 'weak link', at least in the first round. Of course, we don't know who else may be a cylon - but so far no cylon men have been shown to have such extensive control of a human woman. (The subtle gender politics of this show are sooo great!)

You know, the gender stuff was what *really* hooked me. So many fascinating women, all so different and complex. And it had occurred to me that it is Cylon women mainly targeting men--I wonder if that has to do somehow with the breeding program? Though as you say, there might be men we don't know about. There are 8 Cylons still in the fleet, and it would almost make sense for Baltar to be a Cylon--that would explain how he sees Six--but I'm really afraid that someone we love is going to turn out to be one. I doubt Apollo or Chief Tyrol, but maybe Billy, or Lt. Gaeta, or even Adama.

I would have thought I'd kneejerk against Laura Roslin's turn to religion for that reason, since I believe strongly in the separation of state and church....I totally agree about Roslin. Her ambivalence yet determination with mixing religion and politics is fascinating and makes her sympathetic even when she's doing something I don't agree with.

Yes. To me that just shows how good the writing and acting is, because if she were a real-life politician I would be marching in protest of her--AND supporting Adama removing her from office (probably--the whole military coup thing might be scarier than the religious thing, I don't know), but in the show I am completely on her side. (By the way, be sure to watch the deleted scenes from Home part I and II. There's a good conversation between Lee and Roslin about tactics relating to religion, and another one with Billy where it turns out Billy's an atheist. I don't think either should have been cut--they're important character moments).
I loved Lee already, but he stole my heart all over again when he defended her and her government by pulling a gun on Tigh (sexy!) even though he didn't agree with what she was doing.

Oh my god, yes, yes, yes! Definitely the best Lee moment in the series (though a close second is when he tips her off to the fact that his dad had that whole big welcoming ceremony to help her feel more comfortable in her presidential office). Though I read his regret in the prison as a little bit of anger at her for surrendering when he had just put his career on the line. (I think she made the right call, though--if it had gotten violent it probably would have turned into open civil war).
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!bop_radar on January 9th, 2006 09:23 am (UTC)
Re. Gaius - yes, I gather he's a vast improvement on the original. As clari_clyde just pointed out, narcissism is a far more believable trait than outright 'evil'. Unlike you, I read Gaius as a threat from the very beginning. His access to the power-brokers frustrated me no end. He felt like a ticking bomb and his unpredictability scared me immensely, not to mention the question of what Six's greater purpose was. I think the show did a great job of showing how people's perceptions of Gaius blinded them.

Yes - I fear that someone we know/love will turn out to be a Cylon. I suspected Adama for a while because he, more than anyone else, seemed to have an inate understanding of the Cylons (e.g. he twigged on really quickly when that guy they abandoned at the arms place was one).

To me a military coup is scarier than a religious president, but yes--I would be marching in protest against her in real life.

We don't have the DVDs of Season 2 - only downloaded eps, so I can't see those deleted scenes yet. I've seen the season 1 ones and there was some brilliant background stuff in them, including some good Billy stuff which made him more sympathetic to me. However I could also see why a lot of it got cut. It's always comforting to watch the cut scenes and know that the editors made good decisions! I'll get my hands on the dvds ASAP!

Oh yes - Adama's tip-off about his dad was wonderful! I'm so glad they cut that one right--if you've seen the cut scenes from S1 you'll know there was a more clumsy version.

I didn't read it as anger at all in the prison. It would make sense that he felt a bit frustrated by that, but I think he knew that violence was not an option. He would have been prepared for it--but he's a total realist: he knows they stood no chance. But I'm sure he had mixed feelings about it since it ended up with him being restrained when his dad was shot--oh the agony of that! Though I think any anger he had against Laura was quick to pass. He can let things like that go pretty well--like his father he's able to handle complexity and prioritise issues, except in a few personal instances, like *cough* Kara.

Laura and Lee plotting to get out were such a fab team! It was such a huge thing for Lee to do and I love how Laura knows that she can count on him absolutely. I loved how much pent-up emotion that brought to the scene of his reunion with Kara. It wasn't just that he'd missed her and feared for her, it was that she was *there*, with them: it validated his decision to follow Laura and it was the perfect balm for separating from his father. But, oh dear, how tragic, since both he and Kara are so caught up in their own journeys (and Kara had just come back from the Farm, for frak's sake!) they are worlds apart. God that kiss was hot though. Apollo acting on instinct for once was HAWT like woah! ;)

OK, I go watch Home (Part 2).
Nora Norwichnorwich36 on January 9th, 2006 11:48 am (UTC)
You know, I went looking for Lee/Kara just for you, so you should check out the story I have recced on my journal the next time you have a spare 4 hours or so to kill, because it is very Apollo-centered, and although I suspect you will absolutely *hate* a plot development early on, if you hang in there, it gets pretty amazing. Though I suspect when I have to wake up in 2 hours I'm going to regret giving up sleep to read this story.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!bop_radar on January 9th, 2006 10:02 pm (UTC)
Aww! Thank you! *g* You are GREAT. I will do so, though when I will have said hours, I do not know... (*begins plot to make time*). I like that you got sucked in by the Apollo story! I have heard that a lot of the stuff out there is poorly characterised for him... but you give me hope!!
Nora Norwichnorwich36 on January 12th, 2006 08:37 am (UTC)
I just found an absolutely brilliant analysis of Baltar and his relationship with Six here.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!bop_radar on January 12th, 2006 10:46 pm (UTC)
Yup! That's a good one. It's been helpful for me to hear from other people about Six and Gaius. I am a lot more 'into' them now. My Gaius-revulsion blinded me a little, I must confess, though I'm still kind of glad I had it--it really amazed me that an actor/a script could create that visceral a reaction in me.
Nora Norwichnorwich36 on January 9th, 2006 07:16 am (UTC)
Livejournal made me cut my post in two since it was so long! Anyway, to continue:

Yeah - Tigh is also fascinating. His backstory was great. Ellen drives me nuts though - she's my least favourite character - the one I find least-sympathetic and not as well-rounded as the others. But it's interesting to watch him.

Again, you *must* watch the deleted scenes, especially from the first episode of season 2. They cut about six of the flashbacks between Tigh and Adama, and while I understand why for reasons of time and plot, there were a lot of character moments that really made you understand the depth of their loyalty for each other. And like everyone else, I really want Ellen to turn out to be a Cylon, though I'm sure she's not, since it's too obvious.
I loved the scene when Adama came back out of hospital and Tigh confessed he screwed it up and Adama 'makes it look so easy' and Adama replies 'well now you know that's not true'.

While I'm not really interested in the pairing, I think if I were the Tigh/Adama slash pretty much writes itself. And you're right--without Adama they probably would never recover!! You *must* tell me what you think about Home part II as soon as you watch it, by the way. I think I'm going to buy season 2 this week (I had just rented it) so I can rewatch it.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lex neckbop_radar on January 9th, 2006 10:11 pm (UTC)
Heh! *feels all proud that I made you post the mega-comment that had to be cut in half*

Oh I wish I could see those deleted scenes! I will scour for them and get dvds as soon as I can. I found even the Tigh/Adama backstory that we did get fascinating.

I watched three more eps last night - Home (Part 2) and the next two. So I think I'm up to where you are? Will post on it when I can sneak the time off work to do so. ;)
Nora Norwichnorwich36 on January 10th, 2006 12:06 am (UTC)
First time ever having to split a comment in half, and I owe it all to you!

I really wish my home computer wasn't an 7-year-old dinosaur, and that I had something better than dial-up, so I could upload the deleted scenes for you! There must be some dedicated BSG fan who has the DVDs who has done this!
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Ericabop_radar on January 10th, 2006 12:49 am (UTC)
Thank you! Well I wish it wasn't a dinosaur so you could download the latest ep... I will probably watch the next two on the weekend and it's going to *kill* me not to be able to talk to you about them. But I don't think I can be strong enough to resist!

The deleted scenes have got to be out there... I will find them!
Nora Norwichnorwich36 on January 10th, 2006 08:33 am (UTC)
Well, at least when you're caught up you can go join bsg communities and hopefully find some other folks to talk to about episodes!
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: bsg lee/kara politicsbop_radar on January 10th, 2006 11:17 am (UTC)
But I want you there too!!