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25 November 2010 @ 07:14 pm
The Good Wife 2.08  
OMG! OMG! OMG!

Waaaaah, Alicia and Kalinda are killing me with their respective angst about their respective guys! I can't believe how Alicia found out about the message! I can't believe Blake framed Kalinda for that guy's assault! *flail*

I need more now, now, NOW!

OK, attempting to distil squeal feelings into Actual Thoughts... It's hard for me to believe, hearing Will joking on the phone to Alicia about Blake and Kalinda killing each other that he knows that Blake attacked that guy... but is he really that naive that he believes the coincidence? Has he just not paused to think about it, perhaps?

I'm not surprised to hear that he had a plan with Derek to push out Diane. In fact, I'm kind of relieved it was that innocent and not part of some darker conspiracy. It is nasty, but it has been signalled for some time given that Will and Diane do not see eye to eye. From what I've seen of Derek so far, I don't mind him, though I found his peer-review strategy to be a bit ridiculous.

I found Julius's little attempt to high-five Alicia at the end to be completely adorable. And it played so beautifully against the personal haze she was in on her way to speak to Will.

In terms of the office politis, my feminist loyalties were firmly with Diane and I was so pleased that she'd gone ahead and outmanoeuvred the boys. No doubt Will will act all outraged when she makes her move but that will be hypocritical given that he had plans to do the same. Very interesting that Eli is getting caught in the middle.

I found Alicia to be really hilarious around/about Eli in this episode. Her poker face totally slipped! And she was actually growing fond of him, of all things! Amazing what phone tapping can bring out!

It was also interesting that while they were all caught up in the phone tap scandal, the kids were busy creating viral video drama. That blonde chick is the young female Eli of the future, I swear! Such a little shit-stirrer and she just loves all that politic-ing. Sure, she's just pissing around for now, but once she realises her talents are marketable...

How is Kalinda going to get out of this and get Blake put away? (Wow, I am REALLY loving Cary SO MUCH, it's ridiculous! That scene with him and Kalinda was amazing!) What on earth is Alicia going to do about Will? She has been so smitten with him ever since he dumped her. I fear for her, actually, because I do think Will has done everything in his power to box those feelings and put it all behind him. Whereas I think Alicia was looking for any excuse to UNbox them.

Eeep! Eeep! (I love this show!)

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Melissa: berriesradioreverie on November 25th, 2010 08:51 am (UTC)
I found Derek's little attempt to high-five Alicia at the end to be completely adorable. And it played so beautifully against the personal haze she was in on her way to speak to Will.

That wasn't Derek, it was Julius Cain.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!bop_radar on November 25th, 2010 09:10 am (UTC)
Ah! Ah! Thanks!
m_a_r_i_k_s: Alicia-Kalindam_a_r_i_k_s on November 25th, 2010 01:40 pm (UTC)
Amazing episode! It's a shame we're gonna see the follow-up only on the 14th of December.

I loved that scene between Cary and Kalinda as well. He's just adorable when he's out to do everything he can to help her. And it's worrying that he's the only friend Kalinda can expect to support her. She's practically on her own. While I don't think for one moment that Alicia wouldn't do everything in her power to make things easier for Kalinda, she's got too many things going on at the moment - and Kalinda doesn't want her involved 'cause it's simply too dangerous and dirty.

And for the first time I got a feeling that Kalinda was actually scared when Cary shared the news... plus in her car when she was talking to Bishop. I wish she talked to someone about Blake already... like Will.

I bet Alicia's empathy towards Eli won't last too long. I doubt she'll ever forgive him.

Has he just not paused to think about it, perhaps?

That's what has been bothering me for the last couple of episodes too. I think he's too busy to actually stop and think for a moment. And can you imagine his reaction to the revelations about Blake if the mere fact that his friend was connected to drug-dealers (and not in terms of legal representation) got him so riled up? What's up with Will's bad luck with people?

I'm not surprised to hear that he had a plan with Derek to push out Diane.

Thing is, we don't know it for a fact. As far as I remember, last episode they told us that Derek was going to DC to get some ducks in a row and come back with some big shots to push Diane out. He told Will to "think about joining him" and he also told him he needed him help to get it done. I got the impression that it got Will thinking but he never actually said anything about agreeing to the deal. He was truly worried when he heard about Derek's idea to buy Diane out. So it seems to me that Will is still trying to find out what the hell is going on in his firm without making any commitments to Derek and Diane just automatically assumed the worst about Will when she somehow got the info about Derek's plan. She's so pissed about that link to Blake Will never told her about and the clash they had when he didn't support her with the client that she lets it cloud good reason, I'd say. They survived Stern together and that financially terrible year too? Shouldn't it count for something?

And I really don't like Derek's ambitions. He's been working at the firm for what? 4-5 months? And already he's planning a campaign to use *both* Diane and Will as pawns in his game, swallow the hand that feeds him, so to speak. So I can't really get excited about girls winning over boys, I don't see it that way. The team loses in general if they split the firm and allow themselves to be manipulated so easily.

I just wish Will talked to Diane about her frustrations already. He was so bewildered by the fact she kept information on Eli from him. Do you honestly think he'd feel that way if he was out to destroy her?

The second half of this episode was a total emotional roller-coaster! I think many of the viewers ended up hyperventilating with Alicia at the news about the fact that she missed something major and Will totally misinterpreted her lack of response.

123 days passed - can you imagine? One could see all those thoughts reflecting in her eyes. And she all but cried when the tape got interrupted. Seriously. If I had any doubts about where Alicia's heart and mind have been since their kiss in S1, this episode would be the end of them once and for all.

Will's been trying to box his feelings the best he can over the last months of course but did you see the worry on his face starting to creep in the moment she entered his office and tried to speak up with that trembling, almost pleading voice in the last scene?

He read her peer-reviews? Really? - Good luck with trying to fool yourself, dude. Guh.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kalindabop_radar on November 26th, 2010 02:07 am (UTC)
I wish she talked to someone about Blake already... like Will.
I would like that too! I really worry about Kalinda. :( Maybe I'm naive to think it would solve things but I do think that talking to Will would be a good idea. I think she doesn't believe she can trust him, she doesn't believe she can trust anybody and on the surface it certainly does look like Will and Blake are all 'boys club' together. But... but... I want to have faith that Will would have Kalinda's back if he knew the truth! He really likes her, I think he just has no idea what's going on. You're right that his reaction regarding his friend's involvement with gangs was very telling. And yeah, seriously he needs some better friends! I blame the basketball. :p That sport is starting to equate with corruption in my mind! (Get a better sport, Will!)

Ohh, you have thought far more deeply about Blake's manoeuvring than I have. Thanks for the insights! Yes, I see what you mean. And I do feel the firm would be impoverished if they split. I love Diane and Will as a work team together. I totally understand Diane's desire to get a jump on the boys--they have totally shown how cut-throat their world can be, and Will comes off as terribly cynical, but yes, you're right that underneath I think he has a lot of trust in people and he acts outraged when people betray him. Its a little hypocritical at times but it's also very endearing.

Good luck with trying to fool yourself, dude. Guh.
HA! Oh, I heart your shippiness of them so much. I'm pretty nervous still... I don't want to see either of them get hurt (and I think I'm a little afraid to fall for them as a ship). But yes, it is 100% clear what Alicia's feelings are (and she's probably going to rip shreds off Eli in a very understated Alicia way at some stage). But will Alicia say anything now? I have some horrible feeling she's going to back off and be 'respectful' of Will's girlfriend, who we know is not that serious anyway. :(
m_a_r_i_k_s: Alicia-Kalindam_a_r_i_k_s on November 26th, 2010 02:15 pm (UTC)
Maybe I'm naive to think it would solve things

I think it wouldn't exactly solve things, but it would help both of them: Kalinda - in terms of rediscovering how to rely on other people when she really needs help, Will - to open up his eyes and start seeing what is happening at his own firm and what kind of trouble got into with B&B.

Its a little hypocritical at times but it's also very endearing.

It's also interesting how similar Will and Diane are when it comes to those things bordering on hypocrisy. Diane considers that her new firm business is such a major thing that it's acceptable to break confidentiality and blackmail Eli using the info about him being wiretapped, that is, when she reminded Alicia she must not do the very same thing under any circumstances only a moment ago.

At the same time Will thinks it's absolutely viral to hang out with meth-dealers and gets truly disappointed when he discovers his friends are corrupt. But it's ok to be hired by Bishop and get those very money when it's for legal representation, because his payments are considerable and stable, even if it means that he'll have to get into dirt and defend people like that guy who murdered his wife in S1 whatever it takes.

Don't they make a great pair? =)

I'm pretty nervous still... I don't want to see either of them get hurt (and I think I'm a little afraid to fall for them as a ship).

Can you fight it? I really want to.

Actually, you've no idea how nervous I am. A friend of mine who nudges me to watch the show and ships them openly tried to calm down me after this episode because I freaked out (at seeing Alicia's reaction basically) and told her that I should probably stop watching it altogether and wait till the end of the season at least. And yes, I'm worried about them either hurting each other (which is kind of hard to imagine, not willingly anyways) or that they won't get to talk for whatever reason in the next episodes and that the problem will be "solved" by attempting to swallow the pain and box everything. :(
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kara/Lee dreamybop_radar on November 27th, 2010 02:44 am (UTC)
Don't they make a great pair? =)
Ha ha, yes exactly! They both have blindnesses and are willing to cross lines that others look at and go 'uh oh!' yet they also each have very STRONG lines elsewhere. Basically they're both experts at compartmentalisation!

I find I can sort of fight it, yes... it probably helps that I mainlined the show so I've watched it over a shorter time frame? And I think I held myself back from them a bit right from the beginning because I fear shipping now. :( They tug at me though, they definitely do. Mostly the thing that helps me hold back is Will and uncertainty about his moral lines. When he shows his better side I'm lost.

I don't know what advice to give you though... I do know how it can be so scary now to ship... even though I think I don't have it quite as strongly about Alicia/Will as you do here, I do have it strongly elsewhere--I am completely helplessly shippy of Cat/Frankie on Lip Service (who are so Kara/Lee it's unbelievable) and I seriously can't stop it at ALL and Im just completely vulnerable and scared but it's actually kind of working ok for me because due to the fact that the 'Kara' character is a lot more emotionally open and is actually actively pursuing the 'Lee' character I'm way more in her pov for once so it feels fresh for me and it also feels like I'm getting a little of what I never got out of the REAL Kara/Lee (waah, yes, I'm using other ships to get over them!). So... it's sort of good? But still in a deeply angsty way because that ship is a TRAINWRECK. Like, REALLY. Frankie is actually rivalling Kara in self-destruction... and Cat (Lee) just cheated on Dee... WAAAAH!
Nora Norwichnorwich36 on November 25th, 2010 09:30 pm (UTC)
I'm so glad you posted on this episode so I don't have to. It really upped the stakes all around, and I'm continuously amazed at HOW FREAKING GOOD this show is.

I am just gobsmacked at how quickly the Blake/Kalinda thing has gone nuclear. I almost can't believe he's willing to frame her for assault. All I can say is that Kalinda BETTER come out on top on this or I will be super-pissed.

The division of the office has so very many interesting implications. For example, if Alicia were to go with Diane, on the one hand it might devastate Will, but on the other hand, it would remove the biggest barrier to their relationship (him being her boss) while potentially setting up another (the conflict of interest between firms). And maybe Cary can get out of the prosecutor's office and back at one of the firms, though I don't even know if I want that for him, because he's clearly so good at playing the political game.

And holy god, that scene with him and Kalinda pressed my shipper buttons SO HARD. In some ways I want Kalinda with a woman, since we get so few bi or lesbian characters on TV, but on the other hand whenever the two of them are in the room the chemistry is off the charts. I swear, last season I thought he was mainly an annoying little dweeb, but this season I can't get enough of him. I must be falling prey to the Chicago power=sexy thing.

Anyway, I have really mixed feelings about the office split. Like you, I am rooting for Diane (much as I love Will, I think him teaming up with Derek to push out Diane is a really shitty move), but part of me wishes they would make up, because I liked their odd partnership/alliance. But on the other hand, the split opens up SO many possibilities for plotlines.

I loved Alicia this week--both her continual humor at knowing stuff about Eli he didn't know she knew, and her obvious joy at finding out about the phone message. It was definitely enough to move me into the Alicia/Will shipper camp (not that I was opposed, before, but I kind of liked her independent, too).

And I love the fact that Eli being wiretapped means he'll probably be sticking around beyond the campaign, because he is one of my favorite characters on the show.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kalindabop_radar on November 25th, 2010 10:14 pm (UTC)
how quickly the Blake/Kalinda thing has gone nuclear]
OMG, I KNOW! I can't believe it! My brain is exploding! No one around her knows and I just want her to smack him down SO BADLY. *frets*

hile potentially setting up another (the conflict of interest between firms). And maybe Cary can get out of the prosecutor's office and back at one of the firms
Ohh, yes, so many possiblities! It really opens the door for them to keep the dynamics fresh in any way they choose really... I'm loving Cary at the prosecutor's office for now, though. But I do like him so much this year I really wouldn't mind him back either! I think having Alicia win over him was genius at making him sympathetic. :) And I so agree about the sparks flying off him and Kalinda! I feel disloyal for shipping her with Cary, because it IS incredibly awesome to have a hot, successful bi/lesbian woman on TV. But yeah, he's actually the person I probably ship her most with right now.

part of me wishes they would make up, because I liked their odd partnership/alliance
I knooooow! I actually love them as partners! Even in this episode I loved little moments like Will giving Diane tips on handling the judge, and I love that he totally trusts her with the case and respects her as a great lawyer. I know it's Chicago and everyone is out for themself but...

I feel about Alicia and independence somewhat the same way I feel about Kalinda and lesbianism... like I SHOULD be on board with that, but I am WEAK and keep shipping her instead! ;) I feel it's a little more appropriate with Alicia though, since I think at heart she's someone who wants/needs a relationship and I don't think that need be cast as weakness. The shipperness was definitely off the charts in her reaction to that phonecall.

And omg, yes, I neeeeeeed Eli in this show! Please keep having your phone tapped Eli! I LOVE YOU!
Nora Norwichnorwich36 on November 26th, 2010 09:33 am (UTC)
I feel about Alicia and independence somewhat the same way I feel about Kalinda and lesbianism... like I SHOULD be on board with that, but I am WEAK and keep shipping her instead! ;) I feel it's a little more appropriate with Alicia though, since I think at heart she's someone who wants/needs a relationship and I don't think that need be cast as weakness. The shipperness was definitely off the charts in her reaction to that phonecall.

Well, considering she showed more emotion in respnse to finding out about that phone call than she has in weeks, I certainly don't blame you!

I had the most gratifying experience tonight--Thanksgiving dinner at a friend's and it turns out his whole family is addicted to the Good Wife! I've never even known anyone else in RL who watched it, but we spent a good half hour dissecting this week's episode. It was fun! They all love Kalinda, too, and most were Alicia/Will shippers, though of course they didn't have that terminology.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kalindabop_radar on November 27th, 2010 02:46 am (UTC)
That's true, Alicia is really so incredibly contained when we do get emotions from her they have a HUGE impact. That sounds like a lovely Thanksgiving dinner! :) It would be a great show for dissection round the dinner table. Yay!