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22 October 2006 @ 06:24 pm
BSG 3.04 Exodus Part II  

Well, Battlestar Galactica continues to pull out the unexpected plot twists and the nearly unbearable suspense and tension-ridden scenes. However, I did feel this episode was a bit rushed. I have mixed feelings because on the one hand, I want them off New Caprica and moving forward, but on another there was so much to explore here and so many momentous events packed in to this episode, that it felt flurried. Of course, I expect there will be lots of post-New-Caprica issues from here on in.

A wife, a ship, a child
At the end of the episode I was thinking about what was lost in the struggle to get everyone off New Caprica--the toll was appropriately high and we also got to see several personal sacrifices.

Tigh's storyline moved me more than I would have expected. It was confronting and horrifying that he murdered Ellen, but it was convincingly in character. He's backed himself into such a corner as an extremist that this was the only way out in in his mind. It was sickening. What I didn't expect with that plot was that Anders would advocate capital punishment for her. I don't know why I'd thought he wouldn't--I can see on reflection that it makes sense for his identity as a freedom-fighter--but for some reason that didn't sit comfortably with me. Perhaps because I want to like him, and him advocating capital punishment on the basis that 'someone will do it' was really confronting. How will he settle into the democracy aboard Galactica, I wonder? He has such a wartime mentality.

Lee's sacrifice of Pegasus was another twist I didn't expect. It really was incredible, but it was the part of the ep that I felt was most rushed. Unfortunately, Lee's not making for interesting TV at the moment, so I can see why they didn't dwell on it, but it's a huge loss to have lost the second battlestar, and at a character-level, it's a great loss for Lee. I found Lee's actions in character, but the actual execution of his plot is still annoying me. The dialogue in the Lee-Dee scene at the start was clunky in the extreme, and I kept waiting for Lee to articulate his own point of view. This Dee-tells-the-audience-what's-going-on-with-Lee-somewhat-inaccurately thing has GOT TO GO. For starters, she's projecting Adama on to him so heavily that she doesn't validate the part of Lee that is NOT like his father. Arrrggghhh. In terms of their relationship it is disturbing to me that he has never told her he's proud to serve with her before, and it's equally disturbing that during that whole speech he didn't say 'no, actually I'm going to turn back this time'. Presumably that happened off screen, but I still feel we haven't been shown any true chemistry or intimacy between them. Worse again, it was only during the battle that Dee realised 'we won't survive in there long' and Lee just agreed: he totally didn't discuss with her beforehand the fact that his plan would involve the sacrifice of Pegasus. Their relationship feels very artificial--though around her Lee does seem very like Adama in his silent way, with Dee as doe-eyed emotional support. Oh, Dee, you got what you wanted!

Lee's always advocated for the survival of the human race as the most important factor in decision making. I rewatched the mini-series and 33 over the weekend and was reminded of this. It struck me again how Lee and Kara together reflect what humanity needs in order to survive: Kara has the individual will-to-live-and-endure-at-all-costs mentality, whereas Lee has the commitment to humanity's survival. Lee also has a capacity for self-sacrifice--and these two attributes combined in his decision to return to help Galactica. He's also always been very clear-headed about tactical situations, and he knew Galactica was outgunned. That he struggled with his conscience did not surprise me. He follows orders, but only to a point, and it was touching to see Adama curse him and then thank him. I also liked the way Lee's decision echoed Adama's own--to split the fleet in order to ensure survival. But I really hope he gets better treatment by the writing team from here on. It's painful to watch.

Two children were lost in the escape--but also found by alternative parents. Kara's plot was the most moving for me, since I've been so gripped by her entrapment with Leoben. I was not a bit surprised to see her fight Anders to recover Kasey, but I was surprised that the reveal on Kasey's human status occurred so quickly. And I really felt for Kara. Against my will, I also felt for Leoben. I'm glad it played out the way it did, but he captured my imagination so well that I almost didn't want to find out that it was all a lie--that the reality in his mind is very different from the objective reality. That's going to be very difficult for Kara to live with--she hasn't really 'won', despite fighting the manipulation the whole way in true Starbuck fashion.

I thought that seeing Kara lose 'her child' in the same episode in which Hera was lost worked really well. The personal journey mirrored the big picture plot. Roslin's line about 'this is bigger than us' really resonated with me. The loss of Hera will no doubt have enormous implications that we can't yet predict. I also liked the fact that it was Hera's presence that prevented Three from nuking New Caprica--Hera already plays a part in the survival of the human race. I like that.

And now the Cylons have her, though they don't have much else. I have no idea what they will do from now.

Treachery
I loved Gaius in this episode. I loved his despair, his appeal for death, his insistence in his own importance (still!) and the fact that he's staying with the Cylons. I didn't see that coming, but it really worked for me. I also loved Gaeta turning on him. They have such a long history together and Gaeta's come a long, long way. That he finally turned a gun on Gaius was magnificent--and Gaius's response was so wonderfully Gaius.

Where to from here? One traitor is left behind (Gaius), one is executed (Ellen), but others who could be perceived as traitors are back with the fleet. And the end scenes hinted at the fractures that the occupation of Caprica have caused. Tigh is a changed man and his reunion with Adama showed that. While Adama was embraced as a hero, Tigh slunk off sideways, half-blind and hollowed out by what he's done. Kara looked absolutely wrecked, and Lee and Dee's huggy cheer seemed fake to me--but perhaps that's because I don't understand their relationship, and increasingly don't respect it. Roslin returning to the president's chair was fantastic to see, but there's going to be lots of challenges.

ETA: widget285 has a fantastic post on the politics of Roslin's return to the presidency, if indeed that's what we're seeing--it certainly did seem to indicate that. And jennyo has a terrific complementary post on Laura.
And while I'm adding links, call_me_daisy has a fabulous squee post with caps for Exodus Part II.

Is it wrong that I was glad they didn't show us a Kara/Lee reunion because I don't want Kara to see Lee so pudgy? Even though they'll inevitably see one another soon, I kind of didn't mind not seeing them meet in the crowd on Galactica.
 
 
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lee thinking hmmbop_radar on October 22nd, 2006 10:06 pm (UTC)
Both Anders and Tyrol were kind of all "OMGWTFBBQ" at Tigh and Laura over that, even though T&L argued that those people were collaborators and it's what they deserved. So for Anders to *now* be all "Ellen must die for she collaborated!", *is* a disconnect.
Thank you! Yes! That was the disconnect. It really took me by surprise, and the episode proceeded at such a pace that I didn't have time to process such a shift or work out why it was ooc or in character or something else.

I think some *dialogue* to that effect might have been helpful. Without it, it really does feel like Anders has done a 180 without sufficient motivation.
Heh. Yes. I needed some dialogue there. I think that is one of the things that made the episode feel rushed for me--moments like that were a bit 'wtf?!' and hurried through. Laura taking the president's chair, iconic as it was, was another. And the Lee decision making happening off-screen is definitely a third.

Lee's decision was, IMO, momentous enough to warrant *on-screen* exploration but we didn't get that. I know that's why it felt somewhat unsatisfying to me.
Yes, it definitely felt that way to me. I could do the work required on that character to understand how he made that decision--but I'm not sure we should have to do that work. And if I didn't know Lee so well, was a new viewer of the show, I may have been far more baffled. What irks me more about that, now I think about it more, (and clearly I've got some grrr! about this!) is that they inserted some terrible Lee-Dee 'affection' instead--that scene had hideous dialogue and failed to do what it needed to do.
(no subject) - bloodygoodgirl on October 22nd, 2006 05:45 pm (UTC) (Expand)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Adama Dear Livejournalbop_radar on October 22nd, 2006 10:10 pm (UTC)
But he was on Caprica for so long as a guerilla fighter and then we don't know how long he actually stayed on Galactica until he and Kara moved to New Caprica where it certainly didn't seem like democracy was thriving. Then the Cylons come and he's right back where he started.
Yes, exactly! It dawned on me that he's basically been 'at war' since the first Cylon attack in the mini-series. Noone's ever challenged him on this attitude, and he's probably not thought much about democracy--it may seem an irrelevance. Of course, there's much discussion now of Laura just assuming the presidency is hers, so perhaps he won't be under a democracy now either...

Tis why Dee needs to be revealed as a Cylon. At least it would make her character interesting.
Oh, heavens, yes, PLEASE! It is the only redemption for her I can think of.

I thought it was telling Three's speech about leaving humans alone, how the humans would tell their children of the Cylons and how this hate/fear would spread throughout the generations. There's no easy, we'll just leave you guys alone solution.
Oh, I loved that speech and forgot to mention it! This episode was so chock full of greatness. Because that's exactly what the humans WILL do. I find it interesting that 'history' is cast as bad in this light--because humans never do learn from the mistakes of their past, do they?

That scene just killed me. Adama being revered as the hero he is, but the crippled dude being brushed off and no one acknolwedging the tremendous sacrifices he had to make.
It killed me too. Especially because Tigh held out such belief in Adama and their reunion should have been the most glorious moment of his life. But instead it tasted so, so bitter.
(no subject) - bloodygoodgirl on October 23rd, 2006 02:19 am (UTC) (Expand)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: BSG poor slutty Ellenbop_radar on October 23rd, 2006 03:01 am (UTC)
Yes, it will definitely be interesting to see the power politics. I haven't the faintest idea where the show will go to from here!
blowjobs for jesus: bsg kara leokristiinthedark on October 22nd, 2006 10:24 pm (UTC)
I just downloaded the pilot, Boppy! Someday soon I will know some of this myself ;P

I have already found Gaeta such an interesting and sympathetic character, and this ep really brought that home for me. His heart was just breaking! *pets him* But, of course, my heart broke about a billion times while I was watching it. Knowing something is going to happen surely does not lessen the blow when it comes to this show.

he captured my imagination so well that I almost didn't want to find out that it was all a lie--that the reality in his mind is very different from the objective reality.

I have theories about Kara/Leoben! I know, I was amazed myself! Mostly, I'm just curious as to how fast he was able to convince her that the child was theirs, based on the theory that love must be present to concieve between cylon and human. Even if she doesn't know for sure that that's a fact, the idea of it is in the back of her mind, I think. And oh wow, that second "I love you" certainly had a angsty sincerity to it, imo. I hope he comes back soon, I can't wait to see their next battle. Mmmm....
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: BSG baby with that Cylonbop_radar on October 22nd, 2006 11:11 pm (UTC)
Oh yay! Yes, I rewatched the 3-hour long mini-series pilot with a friend this weekend: I'd forgotten how brilliant it was. It holds up really well to rewatching, so I'm sure you'll love it.

Gaeta IS interesting. He's one of those characters that crept up on me. He has a great character arc, I think. That line where he goes to say 'I ... I turned out...' just broke me. I love the way characters end up places they never expected in this show.

I have theories about Kara/Leoben! I know, I was amazed myself! Mostly, I'm just curious as to how fast he was able to convince her that the child was theirs, based on the theory that love must be present to concieve between cylon and human. Even if she doesn't know for sure that that's a fact, the idea of it is in the back of her mind, I think. And oh wow, that second "I love you" certainly had a angsty sincerity to it, imo. I hope he comes back soon, I can't wait to see their next battle. Mmmm....
You have theories?! FAB! And I find myself wanting to see their next battle too. I suddenly realised that this was all just background/set-up for some further conflict down the line--this show plots so far ahead it's frightening! I can't wait for their next interaction either. Though we may be waiting a little while. I didn't want it to be over! It was heartbreaking in a very confronting way. I loved how in the kiss you could see her trying not to give in to it, and treading a very fine line. Poor Kara now--so shattered. Though I'm sure she'll repress everything Starbuck-fashion and push on.
Gio: BSG - Kara sadpaddies on October 23rd, 2006 09:12 am (UTC)
Love the review, as always!

I absolutely agree with you about Anders, it seemed a bit OOC for him to be so adamant about Ellen's destiny... but on the other hand, as he said, if the cylons had the chance to kill Sharon the -probably one and only- chance to go back to Galactica would have been lost...it's a HUGE responsibility...

I did feel a lot for Ellen, tho...I still can't believe Tigh killed her...it's just such a huge price for freedom... this is going to be *so* fucked up...*sighs*

I also agree with you about Lee. I never particularly liked him (at least since mid S2), but lately he just seems I don't know... dull. I kinda liked his relationship with Dee right when it started (he was definitely a better match for Dee than Billy, even tho I loved him), but now I just can't see "it".

I ADORED every single scene with Gaius in it, Gaius/Gaeta and the whole scene with the two Six, Hera and Three... he is truly a fascinating character and definitely one of my favorites... :-)

The one thing I strongly disliked (and I'm aware I'm being v. unpopular here) is Laura's behaviour. Her assuming the "command" once again without any democratic support, her deciding for Hera's destiny... I don't know...I really dislike her character (at lest since mid S2) and she's not getting any better. :|

Anyway, I loved this episode -even tho I liked the previous ones better- and I can't wait for the next one. :x:x:x
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Karabop_radar on October 23rd, 2006 12:43 pm (UTC)
I still can't believe Tigh killed her...it's just such a huge price for freedom... this is going to be *so* fucked up...*sighs*
I know! It's shocking. My mind keeps going back to the shot of him moving off through the crowd on Galactica. He's so broken!

I kinda liked his relationship with Dee right when it started (he was definitely a better match for Dee than Billy, even tho I loved him), but now I just can't see "it".
Yeah, I wanted to like Lee's relationship with Dualla, but I keep waiting to really see 'it' and I just don't... Lee was always the character I instinctively understood best, but now I'm a bit lost with him--his strategic military decisions still make sense to me, but the relationship side of things... I don't get what's going on. I only hope they work in some good backstory or something. Though I get the feeling the writers have lost interest in his character. *frowns*

Gaius/Gaeta has been really on my mind since the ep... that was such an awesome confrontation between them, and Gaius is so, so fascinating.

The one thing I strongly disliked (and I'm aware I'm being v. unpopular here) is Laura's behaviour. Her assuming the "command" once again without any democratic support, her deciding for Hera's destiny... I don't know...I really dislike her character (at lest since mid S2) and she's not getting any better. :|
Well, I'm not sure if you read the post I linked to on Laura's assumption of the presidency, but you're definitely not alone. I have qualms about it too, though I am still fascinated by her character. She's defintely made some pretty dodgy decisions and entered into very 'dark' territory. She needs a balancing force, I feel, someone to bring her back in line/in check, and I'm not seeing anyone stepping up to do that... yet, at least. I hope the issue of the presidency is addressed. Surely it will be! Fingers crossed that Ron knows what he's doing there!

I'm right with you in loving this ep and dying for more... *g*
Gio: BSG - Gaius/Sixpaddies on October 23rd, 2006 01:09 pm (UTC)
I only hope they work in some good backstory or something. Though I get the feeling the writers have lost interest in his character.

Well, they'll at least have to explain the reason behind the Kara/Lee detachment...from what we saw on S2 finale they weren't exactly friendly...

Well, I'm not sure if you read the post I linked to on Laura's assumption of the presidency, but you're definitely not alone.

I read it just after I posted my reply to you and I have to say that I totally agree with it. She made some very good points. :-)

I also wanted to add that even tho I can dislike some characters and their behavior, I still love them... you know what I mean?
Ellen for example wasn't exactly a pleasant character, but I still loved her....it think the greatest thing about this show is that the characters are so well written (all of them) that you love them even when you hate them... you know what I mean? ;-)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: BSG Cybrids just wanna have funbop_radar on October 23rd, 2006 01:16 pm (UTC)
I know exactly what you mean! :-) I raged against Gaius for the whole of Season 1 and most of Season 2. Now I'm in love-mode for him, but either way, the passion he produced in me is a sign of great writing! ;-) I look back on my rage about him with great fondness...

they'll at least have to explain the reason behind the Kara/Lee detachment...from what we saw on S2 finale they weren't exactly friendly...
This is true. I'm terrified to even think about what it could be. Knowing this show it will be something truly, truly frakked up. They better not throw in clunky dialogue a la recent Lee-Dee interaction though! 'Tis irksome.

But even at its 'worst' this show makes me bite my nails and cry and fret and clap for joy.