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06 November 2006 @ 10:22 pm
Battlestar Galactica 3.06 Torn  


Gaius and the Cylons
We learnt that Cylons are all formed of the same genetic pool. For all that, the Cylons have a very dispassionate approach to each other. The calmness with which Six passed Eight doing tai chi naked subtly implies that there is an assumed lack of attraction between Cylons. Six also responded with shock to Gaius's exclamation of 'am I a Cylon?' Presumably the idea of falling in love with another Cylon would be repulsive to her. Although it also seems clear that Six genuinely believes he is not a Cylon.

The fact that Cylons use projection constantly is fascinating. It explains a lot about their disconnection from humans and their seemingly dispassionate natures. They are not burdened by the physical world in the way that humans are. It was also fascinating to see Gaius explore the idea that he may be a Cylon because he experiences projection. There's a lot of evidence to suggest that Gaius is a Cylon--the Six-in-his-head told him about projection before flesh-and-blood-Six did. I wondered whether Gaius could be a sleeper model whose capacity for projection is triggered by love. On a related topic, I'm glad that Gaius asked about the five Cylon models we haven't seen--I've been wondering about that so much, so I'm glad it was acknowledged within the show. Could it be possible that the other Cylons haven't seen them? If so, I think there's a strong case for Gaius being a Cylon, but it could easily go the other way as well.

I'm not surprised that the Cylons have also set their sights on Earth. I liked Gaius's look of panic about it, and his frenzy to reassure them that he had been working on finding its coordinates when he realised that it could help him stay alive. Oh, Gaius! I also loved Six-in-his-head talking him into going to the infected ship. It impressed actual Six--she called it a 'truly selfless act', but we know he was thinking of himself.

The hybrid is fascinating--very Borgy, I thought. So the Cylons are susceptible to infection--interesting. I liked that some of them denied it as impossible, but others thought it inevitable in human form. They've obviously tried to make themselves invincible against normal biological infections, but there's something that's overpowered them.

Seeing the Six on the infected ship freak out and assume that Gaius had set them up was really chilling, as was Gaius's strangulation of the woman he loved to shut her up. Her claims were mirrored by the suspicions of the other Cylons when he returned to the base ship. Lying to the Cylons may not have been the best move for Gaius.

Gaeta: the good Gaius
It was good to see that Gaius had been working on something but I also loved seeing Gaeta take over. He may not be a genius, but quite frankly I'd rather have a hard-working scientist than a batshit insane egotistical genius at the helm of that project! ;-) And I loved his astute observation of Gaius's genius lying in self-preservation.

Sharon
Helo and Sharon are such a blissfully happy couple right now--why do I think that won't last?! Athena's a pretty full-on call sign for Sharon to take on--it seems like the show's setting her up for a fall. She's the golden child in Adama's eyes right now, but for how long?

Lee
Is back! Phew! ::weeps with relief:: But let me put it on record first that that was the WORLD'S MOST POINTLESS AND UNINTERESTING CHARACTER PLOT ARC EVER. Seriously. He gained the weight, he lost it... for what?! And hello with the insanely fast shaping up! But hey, I'm not going to harp on that. Let's just move on and put that behind us...

I like that Helo's being a supportive buddy to Lee now, not Kara. That says a lot about who he is. He's won his own position on Galactica now and he values those who are loyal to the ship and the crew. While I'm sure he still cares about Kara, he's not the type to reach out to her right now. And she needs firm treatment anyway, not a shoulder to cry on.

It is driving me CRAZY that we don't know what the rift between Kara and Lee is. Wow, the call about opening up an airlock was full on! But then, when Lee gets his bitch on, he doesn't do it by halves! But despite that, I enjoyed seeing them back in the sky together. And they're fun when they hate each other! Lee's despairing 'stay in formation, Starbuck...' set me groaning because I knew she wouldn't. Oh dear! Starbuck at her most reckless! Though I was pleased to see them showing that even when she's out of control she's a shit-hot pilot... much better than in Scar! And I thought the rivalry between her and Kat (Katrina!) was really well handled. I think it's especially interesting now that there are more pilots than birds.

Kara
It seems as if Kara's response to her recent trauma is an exaggerated form of her normal rebelliousness. It suggests, to me at least, a connection between Leoben's emotional abuse and the earlier abuse she suffered from her mother (if we believe Leoben). Her total rejection of Kasey was fitting when she was in her usual mode of denying what she'd gone through. In some ways, Kasey could be read as her child self--when she was injured, Kara immediately identified heavily with her. And in the final scene where they embrace, Kara's face looks like that of a frightened hurt child. Kasey had been playing with a doll--which triggered me to think of the way that children role play at parenting. In some ways, Leoben's torture involved regressing Kara to a childlike state. In that state, it's almost as if she thinks she can 'save' herself by parenting her child-self (Kasey). But that illusion is shattered when Kasey's real mum takes her back. Now Kara faces the reality of the situation--and it is Kasey that comforts her, not vice versa. Because Kara needs to admit it's herself that needs rescuing and care and good parenting. She needs to move from externalising it to internalising it constructively.

Beyond this, I'm not sure though... I can't really see Kara Thrace having a two year old friend on a long term basis, but if contact with her helps her to move on, then that's good.

Tigh
Tigh and Starbuck holding court in the pilot's rec room was fascinating. I'm glad the morale issue got fed back to Adama quickly, and I adored the way he confronted them. Normally I'd find that sort of military bullying and strong-arming over-the-top or unconvincing. Who, I would wonder, would actually respond to this?! Starbuck, that's who! When it comes from Adama. The minute he challenged her I knew it would work. But Tigh's the really interesting one--because he's undergone a far more permanent scarring. I love that he is being haunted by his wife and is completely losing it in drink. (I mean, it's terrible, but it's so right.)

Under slightly less extreme circumstances, I think Adam's speech to Tigh would have worked. But I don't think Adama could imagine that Tigh himself killed Ellen, and that trauma is just too great for Tigh to bear right now. As Adama says he is full of hatred and bile--it's as if there is nothing left of him but that.
 
 
 
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: BSG Dee Fat!Leebop_radar on November 7th, 2006 01:03 am (UTC)
You got it! You got THE icon! *twirls* It ROCKS!

Well, except for nearly killing another pilot and taking out a Viper in a pointless and unnecessary move
Oh, totally. But I liked that--it shows just how fully she's abusing her skills, rather than an emo I-can't-fly-as-well-as-I-used-to plot. I like the fact that she's clearly still skilled, but just not supporting the team--and that she's no longer on some special pedastal for her flying skills because they endanger others.

I KNOW!! AND IT HAD BETTER GET BETTER FOR LEE NOW!
TOO FRAKKING RIGHT!!
Scream it! ;-)
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lee Apollobop_radar on November 7th, 2006 08:31 am (UTC)
Oh! Oh! I would love to adopt it!
His earnest expression is so perfect.

Let's talk about Lee and the fact that you could see that hip flexor thing again. AWESOME!
Lee's hip flexor is necessary for life! He must never EVER let that happen again! (Or, more to the point, Ron Moore must never...)
Kate: Gaetamskatej on November 6th, 2006 01:44 pm (UTC)
I was delighted to see Lee back in shape but you're not wrong - there was NO point to the fat!Lee story. I feel kinda sorry for Bamber; he hasn't had a decent storyline in a while.

Gaeta's call about Gaius and self preservation made me v happy. I kind of ship those two when I'm in an evil mood. For some unknown reason Gaeta doesn't hate Gaius; he knows him, he accepts him, he keeps hoping he'll change, but he doesn't hate him. Do you think they'll ever be able to integrate Gaius back into the human portion of the cast? Because I miss the interaction between him and some of the others (like lovely Gaeta for instance).

I think Tigh is too far gone at this point to do anything other than drink himself to death. He's a broken man with no reason to live anymore. I'm curious to see where they'll go with him...

Excellent point about the cylons not being sexually attracted to each other. That certainly seems to be the case.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: BSG poor slutty Ellenbop_radar on November 7th, 2006 01:08 am (UTC)
I feel kinda sorry for Bamber; he hasn't had a decent storyline in a while.
::sighs:: Tell me about it... and seriously, the fat had NO POINT. He gained it, he lost it. Big frakking deal!

I kind of ship those two when I'm in an evil mood. For some unknown reason Gaeta doesn't hate Gaius; he knows him, he accepts him, he keeps hoping he'll change, but he doesn't hate him. Do you think they'll ever be able to integrate Gaius back into the human portion of the cast? Because I miss the interaction between him and some of the others (like lovely Gaeta for instance).
Yeah, I secretly ship 'em a wee bit too, especially recently. And I really hope Gaius gets re-integrated in some way into the human world. I think he will at some stage--I can see Ron doing that. I can also see Gaius blustering his way back on board. They could easily pump cylon info out of him anyway...

He's a broken man with no reason to live anymore. I'm curious to see where they'll go with him...
Yeah, at the moment I can't plausibly see him living much longer. But who knows? This is the show of unpredictable plot twists...

(no subject) - bloodygoodgirl on November 7th, 2006 03:57 am (UTC) (Expand)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Adama Dear Livejournalbop_radar on November 7th, 2006 08:38 am (UTC)
Thank you! I am not getting my LJ comment notifications properly at the moment, so sorry if there's a delay getting back to you.

Can they project with one another? I know Six told Baltar about her forest but did that mean he could see it? Or the other cylon in the blue suit who's name I always forget?
I got the impression that only she could see it--that each Cylon has separate projection (though perhaps two of the same model could share a projection?). Because of their different natures, I'd guess that each model chose very different projections, but who knows?

in S2 when Racetrack made the remark about Helo learning new tricks from the Cylon whore Starbuck slammed her head into the table. At that point she'd really distanced herself from Galactica.
*nods* Yes, good point, the estrangement between Helo and Starbuck comes from both sides--she's obviously not giving a frak about him any more and is allowing people to make dismissive remarks about Sharon/Athena. There's no loyalty there, apparently, though I fully expect that to change when Kara does--because I'm sure it's buried in there somewhere.

oth of them were being little bitches. I'm glad to see it appeared to work on Starbuck but don't know how/when/if Tigh can ever convincingly recover.
*nods* Totally. That was a perfect scene and a very deliberate comparison drawn between the two of them with one pulling herself up and the other sliding even further.
darenothope: Dreamy Green Arrowdarenothope on November 7th, 2006 05:24 am (UTC)
I loved loved Adama's confrontation with Starbuck and Tigh. It was awesome. Starbuck needed a good kick up the backside, so to speak. Poor Tigh though ... you know, I didn't think he could kill Ellen but he did.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Adama Dear Livejournalbop_radar on November 7th, 2006 08:33 am (UTC)
Oh, yes, that was such a confronting scene when Tigh killed Ellen. *shudders*

And I agree--Starbuck needed a kick up and backside and she got it. Good going, Adama! *cheers* Tigh, though, seems lost forever...
Nora Norwich: Roslin dreamynorwich36 on November 11th, 2006 07:22 am (UTC)
I honestly thought Tigh was going to kill himself at the end of the episode. And GOD. I never thought I would miss Ellen--she drove me crazy--but I'm still having trouble believing she's dead. Maybe she'll come back as a Cylon? Meanwhile, Tigh is breaking my heart even while he's being a total jerk.

As is Kara. Gods. I totally love this bit of your review:

It seems as if Kara's response to her recent trauma is an exaggerated form of her normal rebelliousness. It suggests, to me at least, a connection between Leoben's emotional abuse and the earlier abuse she suffered from her mother (if we believe Leoben). Her total rejection of Kasey was fitting when she was in her usual mode of denying what she'd gone through. In some ways, Kasey could be read as her child self--when she was injured, Kara immediately identified heavily with her. And in the final scene where they embrace, Kara's face looks like that of a frightened hurt child. Kasey had been playing with a doll--which triggered me to think of the way that children role play at parenting. In some ways, Leoben's torture involved regressing Kara to a childlike state. In that state, it's almost as if she thinks she can 'save' herself by parenting her child-self (Kasey). But that illusion is shattered when Kasey's real mum takes her back. Now Kara faces the reality of the situation--and it is Kasey that comforts her, not vice versa. Because Kara needs to admit it's herself that needs rescuing and care and good parenting. She needs to move from externalising it to internalising it constructively.

Very, very interesting! I like the stuff about Leoben regressing Kara, and how she wants to take care of her child-self. I'm still sort of heartbroken that Kasey isn't really Kara's kid.

By the way, thanks for those links about Roslin at the end of, um, the last review? the one before it? Since I'm probably going to fall behind again, it's nice to know where else to go for good meta after the fact.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: BSG poor slutty Ellenbop_radar on November 11th, 2006 09:24 am (UTC)
I never thought I would miss Ellen--she drove me crazy--but I'm still having trouble believing she's dead. Maybe she'll come back as a Cylon? Meanwhile, Tigh is breaking my heart even while he's being a total jerk.
*nods* Mine too. Ellen's death slew me. And it still feels surreal, so seeing Tigh completely lose himself was very real, very believable.

As for Kara--yes... she's breaking my heart. I've been rewatching these early season 3 eps (with difficulty) for a vid and I've really noticed Kara's body language with Leoben was very petulant-child-like as well. So I'm increasingly certain that Leoben triggered a sort of regression. I guess Kara's lashing out in violence fits there as well--it's classic abused-child-turns-bully stuff. But SO hard to watch. Especially from a hero character.

Oh, and you're welcome re. the links! There's some awesome BSG meta around. I'll include other links in my reviews if they're useful.