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17 November 2007 @ 06:04 pm
Smallville 7.08 Blue  
Opening with the Clark farm in darkness was an ominous sign. Lighting has always been used to reflect Clark's level of emotional comfort, and he was in dark waters at the start of 'Blue'. It was also an interesting choice to have him brooding in front of a fire--very Lex-like.

Clark says he 'knows something' about Jor-El. Later in the episode we get some hints about what Clark's personal Jor-El canon is at this point in time. He says 'I know what you were like on Krypton' and suggests that Jor-El's MO is to dedicate his life to helping others. The AI denies this: its mission is to train Clark for his destiny. No doubt Jor-El will cop a lot of flak for his role in this episode and I'm sure we'll see another chorus of 'Jor-El is a big meanie' from fandom. However it probably comes as no surprise that I was delighted with the AI. When Clark first arrives in the Fortress, the AI tells him--as he always does--the truth. The crystal doesn't belong here, it's made by Zor-El (who the AI had warned Clark about), Lara is gone forever. In the past, the AI's given Clark even stronger warnings when there would be consequences for his actions--but in this case he doesn't bother. I kind of loved that. I loled at the AI's 'you seem to lack the capacity to learn your lesson' (OMG SO TRUE). The AI *does* apologise for that, but if you read between the restrained lines, the AI has clearly HAD IT with Clark ignoring his perfectly reasonable advice. This ain't going to go well...

I'd have more sympathy for Clark if I didn't find his actions in resurrecting Lara so completely batshit. The scene between Kara and Clark at the beginning was hair-tearingly frustrating because Clark has made so little effort on-screen to ask questions about either of his parents--either with the AI or with Kara. Surely THAT would have been a better first step than resurrecting his mother?! I think it was more than just regular 'human emotions' clouding Clark's judgement in this one: because, seriously, it's a little hard to believe that anyone would think this was a good idea. Yes, he longs to know his real mother. The episode stresses the significance of a flesh-and-blood parent over a memory or a disembodied voice--and I do have sympathy for Clark, but that doesn't mean he should act on those feelings. Where's that rational brain I've seen him use of late!? He needs to temper his emotions with some clear thinking. This was a bad idea on SO many levels.

In the end one of the things I found most devastating was its effect on Kara. First of all, he betrayed her by lying about the crystal. Secondly, he took this rash action without thinking about the consequences for her: Clark didn't just resurrect his mother, he also resurrected Kara's father against her desires. Clark immediately dismisses the danger, but he doesn't factor on Kara's 'human emotions'. If Clark is weak when it comes to resisting the appeals of his mother, Kara is weak where it comes to her father, and Clark should have anticipated that.

Poor Kara is not prepared for the emotional conflict she's thrown into. She's still coming to terms with the loss of her planet and her father's betrayal--of course she would want to believe her father when he says he's changed, just as Clark has wanted to believe Lex and now Lana. It's to her credit that she attempts to kill her father, though it seemed obvious that she would not succeed. It was good to see her defend humanity; she often comes across as very immature, but her determination was on show here.

The consequences for her are terrible--she loses her memory and is flung back to Earth. But is it just me or was the melodrama about her being in Detroit (omg! so far away!) a little OTT?! I mean it's not like she's in Australia or something. Has she lost her powers though?! If she didn't know she had them she'd have snapped off the door, yeah? Poor girl.

Before you start thinking that I hated this episode completely, let me say that it did contain some things which made me more optimistic about Clark's journey:
- We heard Lionel say 'Kal-El is following his own destiny'. Present tense, now?! Whee!
- It was brilliant to have Lara herself insist that Clark had already lost her, that his real mother was dead. (I liked her a lot better in this episode than previously.)
- Jor-El was described as a 'feeble minded pacifist', making me squee. So he wasn't willing to sacrifice the weak?! YAY!
- Hearing CLARK defend Jor-EL! Wooooooooooooooot!!
- Zor-El saying Clark would understand about duty and responsibility if he had raised him. Hmmm. Very interesting! Perhaps that is true, for Zor-El would have bullied him mercilessly, just as Lionel bullied Lex. Jor-El's AI has allowed Clark to make his own mistakes, even if that's not what he wanted. His far more abstract style of parenting has tried to show Clark the consequences of his rash actions, but ultimately those decisions have been left to Clark. Would a more aggressive style of parenting have created a monster? Possibly. But on the other hand Clark DOES need to be taught these lessons if he's to become Superman.
- While the AI warns Clark against his human emotional irrationality, at least he doesn't exploit it the way Zor-El does.
- At least we have evidence now that Zor-El can hack the crystals. That seems to confirm that it was Zor-El who tinkered with the AI on the ship to give it the message 'you must rule them with strength, my son'.
- In the end Clark DID destroy the crystal and his mother along with it.

Lois Lane
I LOVED the Lois developments in this episode. And on a shallow note, she should wear that suit ALWAYS, and her hair was gorgeous as well. I'm delighted that they've continued the sub-theme of Lois being a bad photographer (yes! take Olsen!). But the real joy in that scene for me, was seeing Lois ask Grant if he'd hired her because he was attracted to her. Lois hides her insecurities well, but they are there--and I think this would really have preyed on her mind. This was a wonderful chance for the audience to see her fragility. When she turns her back on Grant and says 'I knew it', the disappointment is written across her face. Yes, she would take the job despite her suspicions--because she's ambitious like that. And yes, she's genuinely enjoyed her liaison with Grant, because she's a romantic like that. But this hidden truth is ultimately more significant to her. And I couldn't have been happier for her when Grant showed her the article that had made him want to hire her. (I hope that's true, btw!) I think she was genuinely proud of that article and had a flicker of 'aww, yeah, that WAS a good one' in her eyes when she looked at it.

I anticipated the worst when Chloe saw Lois and Grant kissing. But in the end she wasn't as obnoxiously written as I'd expected. Yes, her first jabs about it were bitchy, but I was glad to see her say she believes Lois when she says it had nothing to do with her getting the job or getting ahead. After all, Chloe is right when she says that people will talk. So I'm willing to take her words at face value--apart from anything else I don't want to believe that Chloe is that big a bitch that she'd doubt her cousin's side of things. On the other hand, she wasn't exactly a shoulder to cry on for Lois. She was bossy and abrupt, but that's par for the course with Chloe lately.

How cute was Lois's reaction to the eclipse?! Hee! Some 'perfectly boring scientific explanation'.

Grant and Lois are two of a kind--they're ambitious and determined but they're both vulnerable to their emotions. However, they CAN separate their feelings from their work, and Grant doesn't modulate his reaction to Lois even though they're still together--despite Chloe's assumptions.

Lana Lang
The Clana relationship seems to be back to minimal communication. Does Clark really believe the 'visiting Aunt Nell' bluff? And wow, Clark, way to fill Lana in when it came to introducing her to your mother. No explanation, just 'hi, this is my mother, please babysit her, kbye!' As usual, Lana is gracious and hides her discombobulation--I heart her capacity to do that. I loved that Lara saw that Lana was worried she'll uncover the darkness Lana's concealing. Her appeal to Lana was wonderfully compassionate--she could see that there was both good and bad in Lana and that Lana must fight to avoid the bad overcoming the good. It was a relief to hear that Lana's not lost yet. (What would Lara have made of Lex had she met him?) It also seemed that Lara's words really haunted Lana--her self-doubt was in evidence in her scene with Clark later.

I had mixed feelings about Lana-as-Clark's-confidant at the end of this episode. On the one hand I'm glad they used her own history to show Clark some compassion. Yes, Lana would understand the desperate desire to know one's dead parents (she's been on her own dark quest with that in the past), but at the same time I think Clark did need to take responsibility for his reckless actions. The line 'it's how we come back from the mistakes that matters' was wonderful though. Clark PLEASE listen to yourself and come back well from this one!

Grant
Ohh, revelations! Before we get to the Big One, let me say that I was delighted to see the return of the pool table. Lex shooting pool is always good, and there was a very cosy atmosphere between Grant and Lex. I love that Lex has set boundaries around Lois and is very clear about the threat that she poses. Is it too much of a stretch to think that he recognises that 'insatiable curiosity' as equal to his own? ;)

Before the Julian reveal, I was starting to think that Grant was the most naive minion ever. He didn't expect to be bugged?! Come ON! But it makes a lot more sense if he thinks he's a relative. In that case it echoes Lex finding Lionel's bugs on him. History repeats. There were hints here that Lex is treating Grant as an 'experiment', just as Lionel used to mess with his sons' lives and set Lex against Lucas, for example. What game is Lex playing here? If Grant really is Julian then that's one serious retcon. And one MASSIVE mindfuck for Lex who took the fall for Julian's death. But it hasn't been played that way so it seems more likely to me that Lex has constructed this situation himself, that Grant/Julian is his own construction to outplay Lionel. On the other hand, this is one crazy show and maybe Lionel really DID set up Julian's death (woah!) and then give him up for adoption (not really clear on the motive for that, but then it's not the first child he gave up). What's chilling in that case is the lack of brotherly emotion between Lex and Julian--Lex mourned Julian for so long, telling Clark he was like the brother he'd lost, surely his discovery of Julian would have been a cause for joy? It's a creepy sign of how guarded Lex is that instead he seems to be viewing Julian as another pawn on the chessboard.
 
 
 
Everywhere and Nowhereallzugern on November 17th, 2007 11:33 am (UTC)
I'm with you on the AI!Jor-El. It sounded like every exasperated parent EVER. I also really love and agreee with your comparison of how AI!Jor-El handles Clark and how Zor-El exploited his weakness as well as the Lionel/Lex parallel.

I'm convinced now that it Grant has to be a Lex clone - it makes so much sense that way. If he were truly Julian, that would make him 15-16 - and no, sorry that doesn't work in any way, shape or form (and Lois, well statutory rape anyone?). I refuse to believe the writers of this show think they could dump that on the viewers and have them believe it. However, a cloned Julian makes worlds of sense, in this Universe and for Lex's character.

I thought S7 was just too good to be true, but honestly, there were good things to be found in this episode. So, I'm still a happy revived SV fan :-)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lex crazy for lovebop_radar on November 17th, 2007 09:20 pm (UTC)
It sounded like every exasperated parent EVER
Haha, yeah! *pats the fed-up AI*

However, a cloned Julian makes worlds of sense, in this Universe and for Lex's character.
This is true! And it would be a really disturbing twist on the whole scenario. Most of all it strips away the illusion that Lex is mentally stable good again.
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lollie yogabop_radar on November 17th, 2007 09:23 pm (UTC)
I find it hard to believe that MR, who has given us such a human and layered representation of Lex in the past, would have presented so cold given the magnitude of this supposedly being Julian
Oh, yeah totally! MR's performance is always so deliberate and what I gleaned from their interaction is that Lex feels he has ultimate control over Grant, but he's also giving him the illusion of (some) freedom in order to keep him onside. I think he's playing puppet-master, one way or another. Clone maybe? Or it could just be a random guy he's convinced into the role.

I haven't minded the Lois/Grant but this twists it into the main plot of the season a lot more effectively.
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tragicllyhiptragicllyhip on November 17th, 2007 12:20 pm (UTC)
I wish I hadn't been to busy to really comment about your meta on Wrath which I really really enjoyed. I don't even know what to say about Blue, I was so annoyed with the problems of the execution if kind of pulled me out of the story. It all seemed very contrived to get Clark to where they wanted him by the end of the episode. I saw a ton of missed opportunities. I know the AI is not Jor el, he has a single mission and is not there to coddle Clark as a real father would. I think the thing Clark needs to realize is his only parents are the Kents, he doesn't have his kryptonian father and his mother (poorly played by Supergirl-past) are dead and cannot be there for him the way he needs.

It annoyed me that he was shown to be so careful in hiding the crystal from Kara because of what Martian dude told him, and then he makes such a rash decision despite what the AI said. I get emotionally why he did it, but it was just silly, and risked painting him in a bad light.

K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Bop_radar TWbop_radar on November 17th, 2007 09:25 pm (UTC)
Right! Clark needs to come to terms with the fact that his Kryptonian parents will only ever be symbolic memories to him. He's damn luck he had the Kents--that's more than a lot of kids have, so at a certain point my patience runs out with him. And now he has Kara too! Quit complaining, kid! And yes, it felt orchestrated for plot purposes rather than organic to the character right now. We've seen Clark be emotional and impulsive in the past but he's grown SO much recently--this was a real stretch, I felt.
tragicllyhiptragicllyhip on November 17th, 2007 12:24 pm (UTC)
Oh and I think Lex orchestrated the entire Julian thing, there were too many clues in their conversation. And I think the fact that he was able to create a clone of Lana is a clue.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lex mysterybop_radar on November 17th, 2007 09:27 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it was very anvilly that Lex was playing puppet-master with him. If so, I'm happy because it shows a hidden side behind Lex's 'redemption'.
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Spink Tight III: Wet Horatiospinkkitty on November 17th, 2007 04:33 pm (UTC)
hi boppy!

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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Bop_radar TWbop_radar on November 17th, 2007 09:28 pm (UTC)
Heee! Why thank you! :D
Nora Norwichnorwich36 on November 17th, 2007 10:07 pm (UTC)
I liked reading your comments on the AI, though I have to say this episode not only demonstrated that Clark has failed to learn from his mistakes, it shows that the AI also fails to learn from its mistakes. I mean, *how* many times has it given Clark that speech about "human emotions," and has it ever worked? Time to try a new tactic, I think, especially because (a) as you pointed out, Kryptonians too (Kara) can be guided by their emotions, so all this "human emotion" speechifying is starting to look like xenophobia, and (b)as you indicate, it's not so much Clark's *emotions* that are the problem as his total lack of judgment.

Though I have to say, in fairness, I blame some of this on the writing this week. It's not that I think Clark would never make the kind of stupid errors he made this week--in fact, there are a lot of parallels between "Blue" and whichever episode it was were he gets tricked by Fine--but I really would have liked some more buildup so it looked more like an organic decision he made and not just because the writers decided he needed to make a stupid decision.

Poor Kara is not prepared for the emotional conflict she's thrown into. She's still coming to terms with the loss of her planet and her father's betrayal--of course she would want to believe her father when he says he's changed, just as Clark has wanted to believe Lex and now Lana. It's to her credit that she attempts to kill her father, though it seemed obvious that she would not succeed. It was good to see her defend humanity; she often comes across as very immature, but her determination was on show here.

ITA with all of this. Let's face it, it's hard to throw out a lifetime of trusting your dad based on one meteorite-induced vision you had, so I'm not at all surprised she trusted him. And like you, I really loved the fact that she stepped up to defend humanity. Though jeez, could her dad have gotten more mustache-twirling, at that point? Does he care for his daughter at all?Dear Smallville: I know you're capable of depicting layered villainy, please to be remembering that, OK?

But the real joy in that scene for me, was seeing Lois ask Grant if he'd hired her because he was attracted to her. Lois hides her insecurities well, but they are there--and I think this would really have preyed on her mind. This was a wonderful chance for the audience to see her fragility. When she turns her back on Grant and says 'I knew it', the disappointment is written across her face. Yes, she would take the job despite her suspicions--because she's ambitious like that. And yes, she's genuinely enjoyed her liaison with Grant, because she's a romantic like that. But this hidden truth is ultimately more significant to her. And I couldn't have been happier for her when Grant showed her the article that had made him want to hire her.

I agree, that was a great scene. And I really loved that it was her "Combat" piece that got her the job! Awesome. And I think it must be true, since Lex is so anti-Lois, which means hiring Lois was not part of some devious Luthorian plot.

Before the Julian reveal, I was starting to think that Grant was the most naive minion ever. He didn't expect to be bugged?! Come ON! But it makes a lot more sense if he thinks he's a relative. In that case it echoes Lex finding Lionel's bugs on him. History repeats. There were hints here that Lex is treating Grant as an 'experiment', just as Lionel used to mess with his sons' lives and set Lex against Lucas, for example.

The way Lex is treating Grant is just one more piece of evidence for the Grant-is-a-clone theory, as far as I'm concerned, because I really can't see Lex treating the *real* Julian that way.

Plus, the fact that a major theme of the episode was that replicants of your dead relatives can't replace the real thing--and that letting them go is the right thing to do--also seems to support that theory, imo.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lex crazy for lovebop_radar on November 17th, 2007 10:25 pm (UTC)
it shows that the AI also fails to learn from its mistakes.
It's an AI. It's limited. It CAN'T learn from its mistakes--it's been programmed to achieve one goal and to modulate its responses to some degree, which it scales up as Clark fails to clue on, but it doesn't have a normal level of sentience or an emotional capacity for empathy. Sorry to be narky, but I am sick of people expecting the AI to act like a human being. It's not. Clark needs to realise that. We need to realise that.

Time to try a new tactic, I think
I'm sure it would try one if it had been programmed with one. Feel free to blame Jor-El for that--I don't think flesh-and-blood Jor-El ever anticipated this degree of resistance from Clark, and perhaps he should be castigated for his lack of foresight there. But in the meantime we're stuck with an AI that has only a limited range of responses and a Kryptonian adult male who acts like a petulant child. One of them has far more capacity for change than the other so I'm laying this one firmly on Clark.

I really would have liked some more buildup so it looked more like an organic decision he made and not just because the writers decided he needed to make a stupid decision.
Yes. And what really annoys me is that I think he's been shown to have matured a great deal recently. So this feels like some kind of temporary psychosis or something... Clark has learnt better than this! Or so I thought. Which really does make it feel like the writers forced it on the character.

I think it must be true, since Lex is so anti-Lois, which means hiring Lois was not part of some devious Luthorian plot.
Good point!

the fact that a major theme of the episode was that replicants of your dead relatives can't replace the real thing--and that letting them go is the right thing to do--also seems to support that theory, imo.
Yup, definitely. And how freaky that that is a recurrent theme on this show! O.O But also it fits with Lex's history of constructing fictions--the baby that wasn't, and now the Julian that wasn't.
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lois smirkbop_radar on November 17th, 2007 10:27 pm (UTC)
Grant is either a rapidly-aged clone of Julian, or he's some other illegitimate child of Lionel's that Lex located and has convinced he's Julian, for some endgame I have yet to figure out.
Mmm, yes that seems most likely. I'd even be prepared for the possiblity that he's not related to them at all but just an orphan Lex found who he made up a backstory for. But a clone would be more exciting! :D

I would fully expect Lex to slit Lionel's throat himself.
Hee hee hee. You're so right. I sorta wish that had happened.
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suex on November 18th, 2007 07:11 pm (UTC)
Great analysis Boppy, you always seem to highlight points that are often overlooked. I enjoy reading your reviews.

The Clana relationship seems to be back to minimal communication. Does Clark really believe the 'visiting Aunt Nell' bluff?

I actually think Clark was covering for Lana in that scene. He was displaying his usual "I'm lying" mannerisms when he told Kara that she was at Aunt Nell's. (Check out the look on his face) ;)

This is all speculation, but I assume Lana is continuiting with her Isis Foundation, and Clark while supporting her efforts isnt totally comfortable with the danger that its posing her and is most likely keeping it low key and not sharing the information with others.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: K Lexbop_radar on November 19th, 2007 08:01 am (UTC)
Oh, nice spec! That works for me because I looked again and you're quite right--he was being doing his self-conscious-lie routine.
Grimorie: loisgrimorie on November 19th, 2007 04:18 am (UTC)
He says 'I know what you were like on Krypton' and suggests that Jor-El's MO is to dedicate his life to helping others. The AI denies this: its mission is to train Clark for his destiny.


I love that Clark can finally separate Jor-El the man and Jor-El the AI. He knows Jor-El was a good man who tried his best to save Krypton and that the AI is only trying to fulfill the programme Jor-El had installed.

I loled at the AI's 'you seem to lack the capacity to learn your lesson' (OMG SO TRUE). The AI *does* apologise for that, but if you read between the restrained lines, the AI has clearly HAD IT with Clark ignoring his perfectly reasonable advice. This ain't going to go well...

Hah. I love how the AI seemed to be so exasperated with Clark's shenanigans that he goes -- 'Fine, you don't want to listen to me then you'll have to feel the consequences of your actions and this time I'm not helping!'

And on a shallow note, she should wear that suit ALWAYS, and her hair was gorgeous as well.


Oh, hell, yes! Lois should always wear a suit! She looks so good in a suit! It should be a memo to the stylists: Lois Lane - SUITS.


I'm delighted that they've continued the sub-theme of Lois being a bad photographer (yes! take Olsen!).

I love it and it seemed to echo Lois's scenes with Jimmy last season and a great avenue for Lois and Jimmy to partner up!

But the real joy in that scene for me, was seeing Lois ask Grant if he'd hired her because he was attracted to her. Lois hides her insecurities well, but they are there--and I think this would really have preyed on her mind.

I can only say, Oh, Lois. She was on the spot on her assessment about her romantic life -- it is a train wreck but she so often hides it with bluster most people don't see it afect her. I'd just want to hug her because I know this whole thing will not end well. This will burn her out on love big time but that's in keeping with canon, like huzzlewhat said.

I anticipated the worst when Chloe saw Lois and Grant kissing. But in the end she wasn't as obnoxiously written as I'd expected. Yes, her first jabs about it were bitchy, but I was glad to see her say she believes Lois when she says it had nothing to do with her getting the job or getting ahead. After all, Chloe is right when she says that people will talk.

I also had the same reaction, I thought Chloe was going to react very badly but she managed to rein it in and Chloe's right that this will blow up in their faces. But I also loved seeing the cousins finally in the same bullpen together and there doesn't seem to be much rivalry. I think it's because they're not after the same story. Lois's stories seem to be focused more on other things besides the occasional weird story (i.e. street gangs, mayor expose and Luthor) the only time Chloe seemed to contradict Lois was in trying to throw off Lois from the eclipse.

And I sort of loved it that Lois and Lex came up with the same conclusion at the end!

How cute was Lois's reaction to the eclipse?! Hee! Some 'perfectly boring scientific explanation'.

So very, very cute! And really, she should just start wearing those suits ALL the time.

Grant and Lois are two of a kind--they're ambitious and determined but they're both vulnerable to their emotions. However, they CAN separate their feelings from their work, and Grant doesn't modulate his reaction to Lois even though they're still together--despite Chloe's assumptions.

I was, and still am ambiguous about them but I like that they do seem to really like each other and that they really could separate work from feelings.

I also agree that Grant has to be a Julian clone, it's the only logical conclusion after an episode full of clones! Also, now there's an in canon reason why Grant looks younger than Lois! Hah.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Ericabop_radar on November 19th, 2007 08:00 am (UTC)
I love that Clark can finally separate Jor-El the man and Jor-El the AI.
Yeah, I'm amazed that he really can--but this episode strongly implies that! \o/

'Fine, you don't want to listen to me then you'll have to feel the consequences of your actions and this time I'm not helping!'
I LOVE the exasperated AI. *pats it*

there doesn't seem to be much rivalry. I think it's because they're not after the same story
*nods* It's great to see they've toned down that rivalry because it could have been ugly.

I sort of loved it that Lois and Lex came up with the same conclusion at the end!
Oh, yes, that was a cute touch, wasn't it? Those two have more in common that they realise.

Fleegull: ED  Creditsfleegull on November 19th, 2007 10:42 am (UTC)
Have you had a chance to see the latest episode of Dexter? There is an "OMG! That was just like SV" moment there between Dexter and Deb that made me realize that Lois and Deb are so damn similar!

The line I found so endearing was when Lois said that she doesn't fall for a guy so hard so fast because it's so not true, she falls very fast and that's not necesarily a bad thing but it is tough to come off as a hard as nails reporter when you have such a soft center, os I can see why she tries to put on the tough act.

Goodness am I ever rambling!!
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Dexterbop_radar on November 19th, 2007 01:00 pm (UTC)
I just watched it. They ARE! There's some core traits there that are very similar--it's like watching two different riffs on the same theme. And oh, I adore Deb so!

it's so not true, she falls very fast
I know! So does Deb. That tough exterior, mushy interior is common to both of them, and I can see why they put up so much front. They both think of themselves as total romantic klutzes as well.