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05 July 2008 @ 04:04 pm
I once had someone on my f'list who wrote all their posts as numbered lists. I could say that this post was an ironic tribute to them, but actually it's also a convenient way to precis a great deal into a short space. :) This is all the stuff I could have posted about recently, but didn't.

1. I went hermit-y for a while. It's a thing. It happens periodically and unexpectedly and usually for no specific reason. Sorry. It's not personal. But I haven't read my f'list for days, so if important stuff has happened you should let me know.

2. BSG's 'Revelations' has NOT settled well with me. I'm fronting up about that now in case any of my BSG friends wonder why I'm not much interested in engaging about the show at the moment. I enjoyed the adrenalin rush of the episode in the immediate moment, but I have some major, probably insurmountable issues with the direction of the show and I've heard a couple of things recently that make me think that I (will soon) have had it with the whole show, forever. This is not an abandonment of the fandom or my friends in it: you guys rock! But yeah. Better to be honest.

3. On the advice of mskatej and radioreverie I have been mainlining 30 Rock and loving it. I have watched most episodes at least twice now! It is so very charming, and Liz Lemon is awesome. Even though I know everyone who likes the show relates to her because the show is constructed that way (and there's a Liz Lemon aspect to all of us), I feel like she is very much 'me'--in the workplace, at least. And especially me-how-I-was-last-year when I was in a temporary middle management position. Ah, middle management: how I do not miss you!

4. I read Stephanie Meyer's 'Twilight' and declare it to be the most insipid and disturbing Mary Sue I have ever read. I hear that the series only goes from bad to worse in the subsequent novels.

5. I have the 'blahs' about a lot of things these days: TV, books, movies, LJ, even vidding... I'm hoping that will shift soon, but I'm finding it means I don't know what to post about.

6. I've been browsing a lot of non-LJ blogs recently, semi-obsessively, and kind of want to share my finds, but does anyone care? What are your favourite blogs? Should I be reading them?

7. I'm in a post-'Paranoid Android' vidding slump, which is probably not unexpected. However, the good news is I submitted two vids for Vividcon: 'Southside' for bradcpu's Action panel, and 'Paranoid' for Nearly New. The Vividcon schedule is up, so I can stare enviously at all the sessions I'd go to if I was going.

8. I've started yoga again. I learnt that I should NEVER STOP IT AGAIN because the first week absolutely killed me. I was practically narcoleptic after two 6am starts, and my whole body ached. But I'm finding my way back into it.

9. Doctor Who's not bad at the moment, eh? I was surprised how much I enjoyed an episode that included the Torchwood gang: I thought that was impossible for me. I still have Issues with the show, but it gets points from me for entertainment value for the last couple of eps.

10. I am de-hermiting at a very foolish time. We're about to have (yet) another houseguest, so I may have intermittent net time. Ah well! So goes life.

So what's up with you guys?
Current Location: sofa of comfiness
Current Mood: relaxedrelaxed
Ariel: BJR Bull*lunar47 on July 5th, 2008 07:48 am (UTC)
hey there boppy. Welcome back from the cave. Tis okay, I think we all go through that at times.

3.) I need to see more 30 Rock. There was just SO much tv on thursday nights that this show got lost. I've seen maybe half of the series. My sister is hoarding season 1. I may just have to make the 300 mile trip to get that and my other dvds back. lol.

4.) OMG!! thank you so much for saying this. It's brave when everyone around you loves it. I know my friends will hate me but I was just not that into it. I enjoyed the first 350 pages or so and read them pretty quickly. I like reading young adult books cuz they're really quick reads. But I had to stop and it took me 6 months to read the rest. The whole ending continuously made me want to throw the book against the wall. I'm known to be a feminist at times and was just sick that Bella couldn't take care of her own damned self. All the vampires were constantly carrying her around. grr. And she couldn't be trusted to not get herself killed. I read the 2nd book and actually liked it better, relatively speaking. And I'll probably eventually read the 3rd one cuz even though I'm not terribly fond of the series I do enjoy talking to my friends :)

5.) blah blah blah. kind of feeling it myself though my lj would not be evidence of it.

7.) good luck on your vids. I enjoyed them a lot.

9.) I'm starting a Dr. Who marathon with my friend. I've already seen half of season 1 some of season 2 and the vast majority of season 3. We'll see how it goes.

anyways, glad you're back

Edited at 2008-07-05 07:51 am (UTC)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: DW Madame Pompadourbop_radar on July 6th, 2008 12:58 am (UTC)
The whole ending continuously made me want to throw the book against the wall. I'm known to be a feminist at times and was just sick that Bella couldn't take care of her own damned self.
Yes. It was the gender politics and the complete misogyny that really troubled me. I thought it was poorly written, but it was the character of Bella that troubled me the most. It was definitely not something that I could even pretend to like, and its wild popularity DOES bother me considering how disturbing I find the messages about female sexuality.

Thanks for the sympathy on the blahs. I think everyone goes through them, and sometimes I feel it's better to just admit it than pretend.

I'm up and down with Doctor Who. I watched it as a kid so I have a lot of issues with what Russell's doing to the universe, but I do admire him for some aspects of the new show. It's a bit hit and miss for me.

Good to hear from you!
daybreak777: sunrisedaybreak777 on July 5th, 2008 08:34 am (UTC)
Boppy! Not much else to say but Hi! Everyone's a hermit once in a while. Glad you are taking care of yourself with yoga. Not much up with me, just in vid-watching and Gaeta-fic reading haze.

One vid in partcular made me like Revelations a lot better. Like I wanted to discuss the vid's interpretation of the episode more than the episode itself. Good for the vid, not so good for the ep, huh? Vid's here.

Oh, and I found this from More Joy Day yesterday. It's kind of cheery and touching, something about it warms my heart.

Hugs, dear and have fun with the houseguest!
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: FNL girlsbop_radar on July 6th, 2008 01:00 am (UTC)
Ohh, kiki_miserychic is an amazing vidder, so if anyone could make Revs better, it would be her. And hey, I think it's got lots of great visual potential for vidders to 'reclaim'.

There was a More Joy day? Huh. Sounds like something I'm not quite ready for. ;)
petitevanou: ckr - you see mepetitevanou on July 5th, 2008 08:44 am (UTC)
I am curious about the BSG things you've heard that you don't seem to like so much!

Non LJ blogs? sounds interesting, I think I read too much LJ and have closed myself off from other communities, by habit rather than by choice.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Blair yelloqbop_radar on July 6th, 2008 01:07 am (UTC)
I'll send you a message, since I don't know how general knowledge and/or spoilery the BSG things are.

I find that about LJ too. *nods* It wasn't until I took a total break from it that I found myself exploring other communities and blogs and stuff, and then I kept wondering 'why don't I do this more?!' LJ is such a self-contained world: that is both good and bad.
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redteekal: Redteekalredteekal on July 5th, 2008 08:57 am (UTC)
Glad to see you've resurfaced! With all the work that went into Paranoid Android I am not surprised you went hermit mode for a while.
Re #4 *winces* Oh dear.....you may want to defriend me when you find out that I love this series. *peeks through hands at you* I ran off and looked up "Mary Sue" for the first time when I read your comment here, and this is the definition I have for it
Please excuse the ignorance of not being aware what a Mary Sue is (I thought I had some idea but I didn't according to this definition). I am (unlike most of the Twilight fandom) quite nonpartisan when it comes to these books - and know that ppl will either love or hate them. But I am curious to know exactly what inspires the dislike hence the search for the Mary Sue definition. Can I ask is this what you meant?
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: DW Sally Sparrowbop_radar on July 6th, 2008 01:15 am (UTC)
I won't defriend! Everyone has a right to like what they like, and I don't intend to talk about the Twilight series much at all since it really troubled/annoyed me, so I certainly won't be arguing with you about it!

I think 'Mary Sue' is a term that has several different meanings--which you can kind of tell from the extended definition on that site. The aspects of it that I think apply to Twilight are:
- idealised main character who we are told rather than shown is desirable (I can't fathom why so many of the high school guys chase after Bella--she sounds insipid and annoying and not even very pretty)
- heavy identification between author and main character, if only subconsciously so that the work becomes an extended wish-fulfilment fantasy. This can work for people if they too identify heavily with (in this case) Bella.
- the victim!Sue is definitely the way I'd see Bella--she was characterised as so helpless and yet that's meant to be cute/desirable? 'almost disabled' is not attractive to me!
- the entire universe revolving around the main character. This becomes more obvious as the series develops I gather.

That's not the only thing I dislike about the Twilight series though. My main complaint is with the gender politics--the incredibly cliched characterisation of male sexuality through Edward as predatory and barely controllable, and the characterisation of female sexuality in Bella as passive, helpless and overwhelming.

That's the short version. Does that help you understand why I didn't like it? I do see that it fulfils a lot of classic romance tropes--I've just never really been into those, so they weren't going to work for me.
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legendsinlove: darcy doesn't sparklelegendsinlove on July 5th, 2008 09:43 am (UTC)
Hermiting can be good.

4. I read Stephanie Meyer's 'Twilight' and declare it to be the most insipid and disturbing Mary Sue I have ever read. I hear that the series only goes from bad to worse in the subsequent novels.

Thank you! I am baffled by the huge popularity of these books. And slightly creeped out by the Twilight Moms. I really shouldn't judge though. My own tastes can be quite suspect at times.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: books!!bop_radar on July 6th, 2008 01:18 am (UTC)
Oh true--my own taste can be suspect at times too. But WOW Twilight was bad! I am kind of baffled by their popularity too. But then they seem like barely disguised Mills and Boon novels, with bonus pretty sparkly male vampires and really REALLY kickass covers. So I guess it's that? ;)

Though then I read some of the abysmal prose and start screaming around the room about how badly written it is (what was her editor DOING allowing the phrase 'framed in the doorway like a male model in an ad for raincoats' in the book?!) and I fail to understand again...

Mostly the gender politics disturb me and it bothers me that so many women apparently still respond to the all-powerful-male/all-helpless-female trope.
Kate: 30 Rock: Jack and Liz - touchmskatej on July 5th, 2008 11:14 am (UTC)
OMG YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. I am so over the moon that you love 30 Rock. Do you ship Liz/Jack out of interest? BECAUSE I HARDCORE SHIP THEM. The last episode? With the phone messages?! :x :x :x
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Flowersbop_radar on July 6th, 2008 01:20 am (UTC)
No, I don't really ship them. Sorry! Jack is too much of a right-wing ass for me. I find him very funny and I really like him as a character on his own but I am really glad the show has avoided putting them together (yet). I think it plays well when they have separate relationships that they kind of compare each other too, and I like the recurring joke of 'not in a milion year you, Lemon' and I wouldn't mind Jack realising that he had the hots for her... but I wouldn't like to see Liz wind up with Jack.

I guess I ship them as friends with subtext?
latteaddict: Buddy-Copslatteaddict on July 5th, 2008 11:15 am (UTC)
I'm just waving hello :)

#2 has me nervously intrigued. I've been skipping back and forth about BSG stuff too. I think at the moment I'm making a deliberate divide between fandom and show in my mind so I can at least enjoy fandom. Though I sorely miss that confident feeling when canon and I were heading down the same path :)

#10 have a great time with your house guest.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kara/Lee collapsedbop_radar on July 6th, 2008 01:23 am (UTC)
at the moment I'm making a deliberate divide between fandom and show in my mind so I can at least enjoy fandom
Nice work! That's fully what I'm intending to do too. I think the show is over for me. I intend to wallow in AUs and clever fannish reclamation of the show from now on. *nods*

I could explain why it's over for me if you're really curious? But I'd prefer to do so by PM, since I'm not realy up for public debate about the show. (But you maybe don't really want to know because for those people still invested I don't want to be the one who pops the bubble, you know?)
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tragicllyhiptragicllyhip on July 5th, 2008 11:26 am (UTC)
I love 30-Rock too, along with the Office (which i really love), but I've only ever watched it on NBC's site or hulu.com the next day since there's too much else going on to catch it live.

And I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Stephanie Meyers books are crap, i know they're for teens, but geez the main character becomes unbearable.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!bop_radar on July 6th, 2008 01:24 am (UTC)
Yes and YES!

There are great books out there for teens: Bella didn't have to be that annoying!
Everywhere and Nowhere: Callum boy kissing - Not Shareableallzugern on July 5th, 2008 11:52 am (UTC)

I have been feeling very BLAH about LJ and IJ myself lately. I keep telling myself it's a pre-summer vacation slump, and I will come back in September all obsessive about reading and commenting and posting. I hope it goes that way, because feeling indifferent to LJ just SUCKS. I'm still reading lots of fic though, so I guess I'm not really out of the loop yet.

Would love to hear about good non-LJ blogs!
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Audrey Tautoubop_radar on July 6th, 2008 01:38 am (UTC)
It really DOES suck, doesn't it? I think taking a little break really helped me though honestly it was unplanned--every day I would wake up assuming I'd click on LJ today, and then I didn't. But coming back has been nice and I feel a bit 'refreshed'.

Looks like there's some interest in a blog rec post so will make one!
Fleegull: Polinafleegull on July 5th, 2008 12:12 pm (UTC)
All I ever read about the Twilight books is that they are one big Mary Sue but isn't the lead guy a Mary Sue as well? A goodlooking vampire who is all righteous and "sparkly"? That screams Mary (or Marty) Sue to me.

A lot of the blogs I frequent are dancers' blogs. Swan Lake Samba Girl is by a former Assistant District Attorney turned full time writer who blogs about her forays into amateur dancing. She also reviews various performances. I find her to be both charming as well as shockingly naive for a woman who used to work with criminals in Brooklyn.

The WingerThe Winger</a>: lots of dancers blog here from all over the world. They often post short videos of pieces that they are working on as well as rehearsal pictures. The woman who started the blog used to dance with the New York City Ballet but had to stop due to an injury that has not healed sufficiently well enough for her to resume ballet dancing full time.

Ranting Details: Matt Murphy. Poor guy, he used to dance with ABT but came down with a nasty case of Epstein Bar Syndrome and he had to also step down from professional dance. I'm looking forward to see how his path turns out now that he's pursuing writing as a career.

It's Me Julia: A non dance blog She'd love to be thought of as a Gen X Carrie Bradshaw but she has her own charms.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Aishwarya Raibop_radar on July 6th, 2008 01:42 am (UTC)
Yeah, I agree on Edward being a 'Marty Sue' too. The first three books are written so heavily from Bella's perspective and they really only work if you identify with her, so that's why people focus on that part. But apparently the fourth book is going to be (groan) a re-telling of the first book from Edward's perspective: so I guarantee that will be 'Marty Sue' to the MAX!

Thanks for the blog recs! I have become quite ballet-obsessed of late, so I'll definitely be checking them out. I am really craving seeing a ballet and keep asking people to go with me but so far no luck. I may give up and go on my own! But yes, am completely craving ballet photos, videos, stories, anything... your icon is aMAzing!
Nora Norwichnorwich36 on July 5th, 2008 02:07 pm (UTC)
I still haven't seen "Revelations" because they didn't put it up on the show's website. (That is completely made of fail!!!)

And I wanted to watch 30 Rock, but my local video place doesn't carry it. I am foiled in my fannish aspirations, foiled I say!

Glad to see you de-hermiting.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Bellydancebop_radar on July 6th, 2008 01:43 am (UTC)
Wow--that is so incredibly made of fail, yes. *lolz* How ridiculous!

Grr local video show! (mine didn't have it either though so I sympathise)
bradcpubradcpu on July 5th, 2008 03:03 pm (UTC)
Not much to say other than we missed you and I'm still wishing you were coming to VVC. :(
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Faithbop_radar on July 6th, 2008 01:44 am (UTC)
I have VVC-envy in a VERY BIG way! :( But at the same time I'm still looking forward to it because of all the premieres that will come and the DVD and the accounts of it and everything...
dianora: doctor who and rosedianora2 on July 5th, 2008 03:19 pm (UTC)
Nice to hear from you! Welcome back. :)

I'm sorry you're having post-Revelations angst. I understand, believe me.

I read "Twilight" and didn't hate it, but didn't love it either. Way too melodramatic for me. However, I completely understand why it makes teens and pre-teens batshit insane. I don't understand it as much with adults, although, the book actually has a lot in common with romance novels (it now occurs to me that this is almost a teen version of "Outlander" in terms of melodrama), so I guess I can understand the appeal in that respect.

I'm glad you submitted Southside to Vividcon as I still think it's one of the best vids I've ever seen.

I'm liking Doctor Who quite a bit at the moment, but that's mostly because I am a pathetic Doctor/Rose shipper. And I'm okay with that. *g*
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: DW Sally Sparrowbop_radar on July 6th, 2008 01:48 am (UTC)
ANGST, I tell you: ANGST!!!

I think I sort of understand it with teens, but on the other hand it worries me that it's so massively popular because I think the romantic tropes that you hook into as a teen can be very influential in your development and that one is NOT HEALTHY, yo! I'm almost less disturbed by adults if they like it in a 'I like this as a kink' kind of thing and are self-aware about the gender politics. To me they read as barely disguised Mills and Boon novels so I do see why women like them--I just ... that was never my thing. ;)

I'm glad you submitted Southside to Vividcon as I still think it's one of the best vids I've ever seen.
wow, thanks! I was invited to. bradcpu's Action panel would be top of my list of sessions to attend if I was going--it's such a cool idea!

Heee. Doctor/Rose shipper! Heeee! I'm not, I'm really not, but I'm liking it despite that more than I would expect.
Allisonfrolicndetour on July 5th, 2008 09:20 pm (UTC)
3. Ack - I just had a choice between a free first season of The Office or 30 Rock, and I picked The Office. I'll have to get into 30 rock at some point, though.

4. The best thing I've heard about Twilight is that it's the one fandom where it's not wanky to say that a fanfic is better than the source, because it's probably true. You might enjoy this rant.

6. Oh, definitely share. My blogs tend to be focused on American politics, and often stuff that I violently disagree with; I read them in the morning to get the old blood-pressure going. ;) So I'll spare you.

9. I've caught a few of the recent episodes on Skiffy and really enjoyed them. Before that it was always a little too kiddy for me, but now I'm getting swept up in all the excitement.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: DW Sally Sparrowbop_radar on July 6th, 2008 01:53 am (UTC)
Mmm. I've heard the US version of 'The Office' is actually good, but I find myself unable to approach it because the UK version was so definitive to me.

Thank you SOOOO much for the link to that Twilight rant: it eased my soul. :D I LOVE IT! I agree with it entirely, especially the bit about the cover. *nods*

Oh, no thank you! re. the politically enraging blogs. I get ragey really fast about stuff and my blog reading definitely tends more towards the sane and non-political (despite being a quite political person myself). I treat them as pleasure, I guess. I will make a blog-rec post.

Yeah, I'm up and down with Doctor Who. There are some eps I've barely made it through from boredom and others that feel like some of the most entertaining tv being made at the moment. The 'kiddy' aspect is not too big a prob for me because I always watched it as a kid and kind of want it to retain that feel--but the messin' with the canon IS.
fruitsome: r_mastergrapefruitzzz on July 5th, 2008 11:14 pm (UTC)
Hi! I haven't seen the new BSG series yet, but it seems I have much to look forward to :( Oh well.

30Rock is brilliant, despite being the sort of thing that sounds only average when you describe it to someone. I just had a marathon with two friends and one of them fell off the sofa every time someone said "Dr Spacheemen". Mind you, he was On Drugs at the time.

K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Karabop_radar on July 6th, 2008 01:54 am (UTC)
Hee! I think 30Rock would be GREAT fun on drugs! :) Dr Spaceman really really cracks me up--it's one of my favourite absurdist elements. The absurdism in the humour is a real plus for me. It's so rare on US TV!