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11 November 2006 @ 11:38 am
Smallville 6.07 Rage  
This one made Boppy cry! *wipes tears* Oh, show!

OT3(s)
My OT3s (hee! multishippy me!) were all over this ep. It amuses me greatly that Clark is currently in two relationships--he's the ghost figure in Lex and Lana's relationship and he's the glue in Oliver and Lois's. Oh, Clark! Actually my heart was bursting with love for Clark this episode. He's grown up so much--he not only has faith in himself, he has faith in others, that's what came through to me this episode. And it's gorgeous.

Lois and Ollie finally made out!! Wheeeee!! \o/ And they looked gorgeous, though personally I'm completely baffled as to why Lois left to take off the absolutely gorgeous dress. Ok, it's cute that she came back in one of Ollie's shirts, but ... I'm fanwanking that she had extremely hot underwear on under it that she couldn't wear with the dress. Or something.

Anyway, the disappearances begin! Get used to it Lois. I liked that Lois's reaction was to view it as partly her own fault. She's used to screwing up a lot and she's nervous in relationships--so she thinks that she's partly to blame. But she puts a very peppy cheery face on it to Martha and Clark. Though we also learnt that she's well aware of the power imbalance there (billionaire/tabloid reporter--still more plausible than billionaire/muffin pedlar!).

When Lois first announces that she and Oliver are breaking up, Clark's response is just what we would expect from him--'I'm sure you'll find someone more suited'. While Lois thinks he means someone closer to her social status, he really means someone without a secret identity. And when Oliver sends Lois flowers, Clark immediately jumps into judgemental mode: 'you forget everything he's done!' Which of course is completely hilarious because Lois is not swayed by flowers anyway.

Clark is able to help Oliver only because of the information that Lois gives him. In confronting Oliver's problem he also finds himself protecting Oliver's relationship with Lois ('that could have been Lois coming through that door'). And the journey of acceptance, forgiveness and thanksgiving that Clark undertakes in this episode leads him to play a key role in bringing them back together.

Of course Lois is in complete denial about Clark's significance and indeed is frustrated by what she sees as his inappropriate meddling. When Clark tells Lois that he was 'looking out for her' and went to talk to Oliver at his apartment, Lois responds with a despairing frustrated 'you didn't?' I loved her line 'I have 20/20 vision, I look out for myself.' This is true of Lois, however in this case what's needed is x-ray vision--to see beyond the surface level actions in the relationship to the cause behind them (the injection that Clark saw Oliver take). For better or worse, Lois and Oliver need Clark to keep them connected. Once Clark imparts the news about drugs to Lois, she's fine with it. Ah, dear Lois! Give her flowers and she'll blow you off. Tell her you have a drug problem and she'll be by your side. ::happily amused sigh::

I thought Oliver's attack on Lois was well handled--it looked like an instinctive rage response to being attacked. And then his voice slipped for a moment when he said 'I didn't...' This seemed like real regret and I adored their coziness in the doorway reunion at the Kents.

Clark encourages Oliver and Lois to patch things up--he invites Oliver to Thanksgiving and he shoos Lois off to the door to greet him. There's a sense of acceptance in this from Clark, which is very healthy for him, I think. He's not letting his experiences with Lana dictate how he views other people's relationships now. And it worked! I love that Ollie and Lois glanced at each other when Clark said to think about what they're most thankful for in their lives. Eeeeee!!! That one is going to break my heart when it ends.

The Green Arrow's dark side
I thought Oliver's superhero rescue sequence at the start was well set up. It's the first time we've seen him step in in to stop a crime and it left me troubled. He could have killed that guy in the car crash, so I was already wondering if this was his usual MO. It's possible it was since we saw him deliver the 'cops will have a key' line and we didn't know he was taking the drug yet. If so, it bothers me as a bit reckless--but I have this prob with nearly all superheros and it's not as bad as some of Clark's casual chucking around of meteor freaks has been. However, the other thing that I was very conscious of in the scene was how much harder it was for Ollie than for Clark--to the point where it seemed almost implausible without superspeed. He needs so many gadgets to help him through.

And then of course he has the mortality issue. Brilliant! I'm so glad they explored this! We've seen that Clark himself is not successful as a mortal. Green Arrow's shooting echoed Clark's shooting in Hidden perfectly, complete with the same panning-back arial shot. This was a great way in to exploring Oliver's jealousy of Clark. Because while it was the drugs that made him come out with it, I do think Oliver is jealous of Clark's abilities, is frustrated by how much it takes to keep himself in shape (such lovely shape!) and equipped with all the gear--and even then he risks death time and time again.

(Aside: um, nice hot scene with Clark walking in on Ollie working out--and hey look! Ollie's wearing Clark's clubbing top from Red! ;-) )

So Oliver dabbles with a dangerous chemical solution, familiar territory for Smallville, but well integrated into the themes of the show. Naturally it comes with a side-effect--rage. I wasn't surprised to hear Oliver blurt out his frustration about Clark 'bailing hay' while there was a crime wave in Metropolis. That was bound to grate on Oliver, despite his patient 'when you're ready...' statement. But it was when he showed Clark the door that I knew that something was causing a personality shift. Because we know that Clark and Oliver have an 'open door' relationship now.

Oliver claims Clark's 'only concern in life is protecting his own identity'. In the past this would have been a fair call on Clark. However, we know now that his concerns stretch far wider than that--he's just vowed to rid the world of the Zoners for starters. This call was similar to Lois's call: 'I don't desert people when they need help'. Neither is fair of Clark as he is now, and both calls are based on the character making them not knowing Clark fully. But from their perspectives, that's what they see--a cross Clark has to learn to bear.

As Oliver worked himself into his rage, the crux of his anger comes to the forefront--'staying alive'. It's the mortality issue that divides him from Clark at a fundamental level, and having lost his parents (when?) Oliver must be hyper-conscious of it. While his anger is chemical-enduced, the concern behind it is not. He does risk his life to do what he does, whereas Clark does not.

Clark played a very Supermanly role in this plot, calling Oliver on his sloppiness and later confronting him over Lex's (possible) killing. This came nicely to the foreground in the resolution scene between Clark and Oliver with Oliver saying 'I'm not even in your league'. Awww... But you will be! And Oliver describing Clark as 'able to bring justice to the world without having to worry about getting killed in the process'. I think it's great that the role modelling works both ways now--Oliver sets Clark up as his role model now--pointing to Clark's strict morality. Oliver's has always been looser. And he knows he's got a darkness in him from his bully past. It's only his human self that keeps himself in check--he's got nothing else to draw on. So Oliver needs to be very clear about his boundaries.

Oliver was well and truly out of control by the time he held Lex to ransom--his voice was slipping, he was reckless and aggressive. I love, love, loved that Lex raised the question of which was faster--an arrow or a bullet. And then they put it to the test, and hey, guess what? They both kill you! Good, going guys! (MEN.)

Again, Oliver's rage was grounded in his real emotions--he really doesn't think much of Lex and so his disdain for him comes out. And Oliver views him as a killer--well, that call is fair. But Oliver and Clark have also got stains on their record, so a pot/kettle situation there.

Clexy yay!
Oh, Clark! The knocking phase didn't last long. Once again he's doing the burst-in at the mansion. And I still don't buy that he's not at all concerned for Lex--when he said 'Lex could be next' it sounded like concern, not practicality. Also, he burst in in the heat of emotion, only back-pedalling when we saw Lana. And when Clark walked in on Lex shot dead he looked really ouchy and moved. Good to see, too, that Clark's fingers went straight to Lex's pulse. He's had lots of practice, I guess. And hee! Apparently super-speeding Lex to a hospital isn't good enough for Clark anymore--he's got to resuscitate him himself. Leaving aside the rather dodgy medical judgement involved here, I found this rather moving! Though I wish Clark had seen fit to use the opportunity to remove some of Lex's clothes... Oliver tried to appeal to the part of Clark that is deeply anxious about Lex and his role in the world, but Clark was having none of it--both for moral reasons ('that's not for us to decide') but also for emotional ones if that eye flicker and frowny brow are anything to go by. And don't tell Clark to let his man die! You'll get thrown across a room!

On a Lex level, let's pause for a moment to consider that once again he's been a) shot, b) killed, c) administered a foreign dangerous substance, d) been gifted with regeneration and e) left to baffle all this out on his own. What a life!

Thanksgiving
I loved Clark's emotional journey about Thanksgiving in this episode. At first he wants to keep it low-key, saying 'I'm not feeling very thankful this year'. And wow, Martha actually mentioned Raya--points for continuity! (Usually when Clark's girlfriends die everyone forgets in the next ep.) It was interesting that Clark told Martha he was struggling with the idea, a legacy of Jonathan's, that he should be thankful for his abilities. This was a bit of a step back for Clark to his Season 5 emotions of 'if only I didn't have abilities/if only I wasn't this person, nothing would have happened'. That's a pointless road to go down, and I'm glad that Clark worked past it in this episode, through his experience with Oliver. When Oliver echoes Jonathan's words that he should be thankful for his abilities and who he is, Clark reflects on this and realises that he should be as well--he can't tell Oliver to do that and not apply it to himself. Yay!

And this gratitude of Clark's expresses itself in being magnanimous with invitations to Thanksgiving lunch after all. I loved that scene! Clark staring around the table as the patriarch of his little world. Lois and Ollie being love-birdy and Chloe getting smushy messages from Jimmy. Martha and Lionel chinking glasses... and yes, I teared up again. *headdesk* We learnt that Thanksgiving is a hard time of year for others as well--Oliver thinks of his parents, Lionel thinks of Lillian. It made me wonder if the others round that table were thinking of lost parents--Chloe and Lois both have missing mothers.

And I have to do my little happy dance about the use of music in that scene--again, nice lyric choice from the SV team. The 'she said noone will love you more than me' line worked really well for Martha, especially after Clark's tribute to her. And the 'I'm waiting for you to believe' line was in keeping with the theme of Clark's parents having faith in him leading him to have faith in himself (and others). And was that a Chlarky echo? 'I wish that love was all it took, I'd fall into you if I could...'? And Clark DID make a graceful recovery from his aborted attempt to pursue something with her.

And then it even worked for the Lexana scene as well (could that table have BEEN any longer, btw?). The 'I'm not easy' line was perfect for Lex, but also with that connection back to Clark. And was the lyric 'this ain't hallowed ground'? Interesting. *geeks*

Mionel
Ohh, near kiss! Wow! norwich36 will be excited! I love that Lionel has obviously been so restrained around Martha for so long that she's finally cracked and it's her that acknowledges there is something between them. I liked their near kiss, but I'm actually very glad that Martha drew a line and said she didn't want to explore it yet. Mainly because I think Clark is going to FLIP OUT. Despite the hints we've been shown recently that Lionel is evil again, around Martha he behaves like a paragon of virtue. He seemed so genuine. It's a perfect echo of early season Lex around Clark. He's a different person when he's with his son or investigating alien technology--and as with Lex, that split is going to catch up with him one day and become apparent to Martha. But I like that they may have a dalliance first.

The go-to girl
Chloe and Lana are friends again. Interesting. Especially as it was made immediately obvious how awkward this is for Chloe, given her friendship for Clark. The other source of awkwardness is Chloe's view of Lex and Luthorcorp. I was intrigued to see how this would be handled and I think the writing team got around it quite nicely with having Chloe validate Lana's caution rather than slagging off Lex. And I was amused to see Lois turning to Chloe as well this episode. Hee! She's really set up as the alternative problem solver to Clark. And Lois, for one will continue to favour her cousin. And now Chloe has another secret to keep! Lana's pregnancy is a big one to hide from Clark.

Lexana bombshell
At first I wondered whether Lex was setting Lana up to work with the Halfway House. The convenient brochure and overheard phonecall seemed like Lexian manipulation. But then I realised that it was for plot purposes and that Lex was genuine in not wanting Lana to work with them, though not necessarily for the reasons he states. Regardless, I liked the symbolism--Lana wants to work with reformed or reforming adults, Lex tries to palm her off with charities related to 'youth' or 'victims'. Hmmm. This isn't Lana any more. She demands to be taken seriously as an adult and asks 'what is it with people feeling like they have to protect me?' In the past lines like this from Lana have annoyed me because she did seem fragile. But she doesn't any more--so I had a lot of sympathy for her there.

Ok, so I gather that the Lana pregnancy has already prompted fanwars? Why am I not surprised? I was, it turns out, spoiled for this one. I read the word 'pregnancy' somewhere ages back before my eyes flicked away but was never sure if it was a joke or not. Turns out not. Am I bothered by it? Yes and no. I like what it does for Lana, I'm not so sure about it for Lex. But I don't mind how it's been played on the show so far and I will continue to reserve judgement until I see how the show handles it--sorry but I hate kneejerking about spoilers before I have the full context of the episode(s).

You know what I REALLY REALLY LOVED? The Clana scene! *dies* No, I ADORED it! I teared up! Now that they're not together the history between those two plays really well as denied intimacy and tenderness. And, yeah, ok, maybe I was rewatching Mortal and Hidden the other day and found them cute. Go on! Press the defriend button! You know you want to! ;-p

That fireplace of Lex's? The coldest fireplace in the world. So much for the promise of warmth and love and intimacy. Instead, Lana's alone in front of it. And I loved her facial expressions when Clark burst in--she's alone not just with her conflicted emotions about her pregnancy but also with her emotions about Clark and his continued connection to Lex. And I really loved how the scene played from there with Clark showing real concern for her and Lana trying to fight the urge to open up to him. And the back in time line slayed me. That's the heart of the tragedy in the show--if you could go back and change time and make it different... and to have Lana saying that to Clark? With Lex the ghost between them? Eep! *tears up for all three* And then Lana shut off again when Clark hinted at accusing Lex of something--despite everything, she'll protect him in front of Clark.

Lex and Lana are in black a lot recently, but when Lana came to tell Chloe she was pregnant, she wore a white jacket. I wonder what that means--especially given Lex toying with the black chess pieces earlier. And then in the icey final scene between them, she was in a white robe. I don't know if it's too early to say, but my guess is that the pregnancy is going to mark a key turning point for Lana with her in opposition to Lex.

Although that's in opposition to the way she behaved with Chloe, shutting her off from telling her the news about the Halfway House. Obviously Lana feels very conflicted right now. I'm really intrigued to see where she goes from here. But oddly far less interested in Lex. As I say, I find the current plot great for Lana, but meh for Lex.
 
 
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Vicki: kermitmyownghost on November 10th, 2006 10:13 pm (UTC)
as i read through this, i was struck by the reason i always like your discussions of episodes and so on -- you're very humane. i like the way you see the characters: you give them the benefit of the doubt, and you want them to be happy.

>around Martha he behaves like a paragon of virtue. He seemed so genuine. It's a perfect echo of early season Lex around Clark.

oh, that helps! i thought the near-kiss was ludicrous as i watched the scene, but now that you say this, i can see why it was set up that way. i'll borrow your thought. :)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Clex fascinated with youbop_radar on November 10th, 2006 10:33 pm (UTC)
you give them the benefit of the doubt, and you want them to be happy.
Aww, thanks! You know, I think that's true. I'm far less humane to characters in other shows though... I think it's just because Smallville is my special show.

The near-kiss surprised me too--I didn't think Martha was ready for that. But they're definitely mirroring early season Clex. Lionel and Lex have swapped places--Lionel's trying to be good because he cares for Martha (and I think he really does love her if he's 'evil' underneath). And Lex is in an icy near-marriage with Lana, which I think we're supposed to view as a reliving of Lionel's relationship with Lillian. It's not as fun as onscreen Clex, but it's still subtexty.
blowjobs for jesus: Clark pink shirtkristiinthedark on November 10th, 2006 10:13 pm (UTC)
Go on! Press the defriend button! You know you want to! ;-p

OMG DEFRIENDS YOU!!!

Seriously, though, I thought they were very sweet together, too!

I wasn't crazy about this episode, mostly because I found it heavy-handed, but I'm reminded when I read this that there were several lovely scenes! The Clana scene, for instance, and I loved all of the Oliver stuff. Plus, you know, CLARK IS SO PRETTY!
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: TW smilebop_radar on November 10th, 2006 10:35 pm (UTC)
Seriously, though, I thought they were very sweet together, too!
Heeeeeeeeee. That scene was really well acted by Tom and Kristin. Kudos to both of them. I wonder if the break from acting with each other so much has meant they've brought a 'freshness' to their scene?

Yay for Ollie! There was lots of Ollie!

Plus, you know, CLARK IS SO PRETTY!
ISN'T HE?!!! And he's so admirable and virtuous and overflowing with love! I am in a spazzing-out-about-Clark mood, as you can see! He had me this ep.
Nora Norwichnorwich36 on November 10th, 2006 11:29 pm (UTC)
part 1 of 2
Of course Lois is in complete denial about Clark's significance and indeed is frustrated by what she sees as his inappropriate meddling. When Clark tells Lois that he was 'looking out for her' and went to talk to Oliver at his apartment, Lois responds with a despairing frustrated 'you didn't?' I loved her line 'I have 20/20 vision, I look out for myself.' This is true of Lois, however in this case what's needed is x-ray vision--to see beyond the surface level actions in the relationship to the cause behind them (the injection that Clark saw Oliver take). For better or worse, Lois and Oliver need Clark to keep them connected. Once Clark imparts the news about drugs to Lois, she's fine with it. Ah, dear Lois! Give her flowers and she'll blow you off. Tell her you have a drug problem and she'll be by your side. ::happily amused sigh::

I really, really loved Lois in this episode, and that scene in particular. I love that she won't give up on Ollie just because of a drug problem. It's going to break my heart when this relationship ends, too--they're damn cute together. Well, at least we got to see them make out! Though what the hell was up with the shirt? I thought she was going to come back in a negligee or something.

Green Arrow's shooting echoed Clark's shooting in Hidden perfectly, complete with the same panning-back arial shot. This was a great way in to exploring Oliver's jealousy of Clark. Because while it was the drugs that made him come out with it, I do think Oliver is jealous of Clark's abilities, is frustrated by how much it takes to keep himself in shape (such lovely shape!) and equipped with all the gear--and even then he risks death time and time again.

Ooh, really good observations. I didn't see the "Hidden" parallels until you pointed them out, but it's nice thematic continuity that the show is continuing to demonstrate how hard it is to be a mortal superhero. And i agree with you, I *love* how Supermanly Clark is with Ollie in their scenes together.

I loved Clark's emotional journey about Thanksgiving in this episode. At first he wants to keep it low-key, saying 'I'm not feeling very thankful this year'. And wow, Martha actually mentioned Raya--points for continuity! (Usually when Clark's girlfriends die everyone forgets in the next ep.) It was interesting that Clark told Martha he was struggling with the idea, a legacy of Jonathan's, that he should be thankful for his abilities. This was a bit of a step back for Clark to his Season 5 emotions of 'if only I didn't have abilities/if only I wasn't this person, nothing would have happened'. That's a pointless road to go down, and I'm glad that Clark worked past it in this episode, through his experience with Oliver. When Oliver echoes Jonathan's words that he should be thankful for his abilities and who he is, Clark reflects on this and realises that he should be as well--he can't tell Oliver to do that and not apply it to himself. Yay!

I agree that it was a great thing that Clark moved past his guilt, but I actually thought it was quite realistic that he would be revisiting it, since holidays do tend to make grief fresh again, and for Clark grief over his dad is *always* going to be linked to guilt. But I do love how the final scene does make it seem like he's assumed Jonathan's mantle in a good way--the positivie virtues of Jonathan without the negative aspects.

K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lois Chloe comfort foodbop_radar on November 10th, 2006 11:53 pm (UTC)
Re: part 1 of 2
Well, at least we got to see them make out! Though what the hell was up with the shirt? I thought she was going to come back in a negligee or something.
God, they were gorgeous together! But that shirt?! SO WRONG. I didn't get it at all. And she was gone forever... did she have to rummage in Ollie's gear for exactly the right shirt?! Weird. Just weird. But god, they're the loveliest couple. I liked Oliver's 'c'mon, get over here' to her at the doorway too.

I actually thought it was quite realistic that he would be revisiting it, since holidays do tend to make grief fresh again, and for Clark grief over his dad is *always* going to be linked to guilt.
Yes, that's true! Good point!

But I do love how the final scene does make it seem like he's assumed Jonathan's mantle in a good way--the positivie virtues of Jonathan without the negative aspects.
*nods* Without his father's heavy-handedness. Clark as a patriarchal figure is an interesting concept. Because both Jor-El and Jonathan embody different types of patriarchy that personally I find grating. But Clark's finding his own way to a more pacific, positive paternalism.
Nora Norwichnorwich36 on November 10th, 2006 11:30 pm (UTC)
part 2 of 2
It made me split this in half!!

Ohh, near kiss! Wow! [info]norwich36 will be excited!

I was positively giddy, as you might imagine.

I love that Lionel has obviously been so restrained around Martha for so long that she's finally cracked and it's her that acknowledges there is something between them. I liked their near kiss, but I'm actually very glad that Martha drew a line and said she didn't want to explore it yet. Mainly because I think Clark is going to FLIP OUT.

Totally. I'm just glad we didn't get the flip out in this episode. I think the Mionel deserves an episode of its very own--probably sometime in February sweeps, I'm guessing.

Despite the hints we've been shown recently that Lionel is evil again, around Martha he behaves like a paragon of virtue. He seemed so genuine. It's a perfect echo of early season Lex around Clark. He's a different person when he's with his son or investigating alien technology--and as with Lex, that split is going to catch up with him one day and become apparent to Martha. But I like that they may have a dalliance first.

I doubt it will get as far as even Lois/Ollie, but they should at least make out, dammit! And I agree with you about the split in his behavior around Martha, and how it mirrors early season Clark/Lex interactions.

I love your analysis of the fireplace scene, and the color symbolism with Lana. I agree with you that this plot is excellent for Lana, but not so much for Lex. I'm actually finding him...boring, I think? Which is not something I every expected to say. He was great in that scene with Green Arrow, but his interactions with Lana leave me cold. I want love or hatred, but not this grey middle ground. I'm going to have to make an icon that says "The only sin passion can commit is to be joyless," which is a Dorothy Sayers quote which describes how I feel about Lexana these days.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!bop_radar on November 10th, 2006 11:56 pm (UTC)
Re: part 2 of 2
Totally. I'm just glad we didn't get the flip out in this episode. I think the Mionel deserves an episode of its very own--probably sometime in February sweeps, I'm guessing.
Heh. Yes, that sounds plausible. And I agree that the Mionel deserves its own ep and I got the vibe that it would.

I'm actually finding him...boring, I think? Which is not something I every expected to say.
Ah ha. Me too. He's BORING. *dies* It seems inconceivable but yet it's happening.

"The only sin passion can commit is to be joyless," which is a Dorothy Sayers quote which describes how I feel about Lexana these days.
Ohhhh yes! Awesome quote!

Seriously, where's the sparks? where's the fiery passion? where's the fighting and the make-up sex? ANYTHING. *cries*
Juxtoppozedjuxtoppozed on November 10th, 2006 11:39 pm (UTC)
Shhh, don't tell anyone, but I almost teared up at that Clana scene too. Great job by TW and KK there, having their characters struggling with their emotions and almost paralyzed with regret and sadness. It was just very well done. It makes me wonder how long until she is comfortable opening up to him again, since they need to build back up to that at show's end (if they follow the Lana-as-confidante comics ending, unless Chloe is the real Lana of this story).
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: KK cutie iconbop_radar on November 10th, 2006 11:57 pm (UTC)
It was so so well done! I'm glad I wasn't alone in thinking that. I got a very real sense that she wanted to open up to him and that he just put his foot in it when he said 'what has Lex done?' I do wonder whether she will turn to him at some stage--I think it's possible. And I might even enjoy it!
Carolcarolandtom on November 10th, 2006 11:41 pm (UTC)
Plus, you know, CLARK IS SO PRETTY!
ISN'T HE?!!! And he's so admirable and virtuous and overflowing with love! I am in a spazzing-out-about-Clark mood, as you can see! He had me this ep.


Glad he did! I think Clark was wonderful in this episode! (And so very beautiful!)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Clark basketballbop_radar on November 11th, 2006 12:01 am (UTC)
Awww, my heart was just overflowing with love for him! He's such a honey. I like it that he found his happy despite all his pain. Such a hero. And I want to have Thanksgiving with Clark!
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: KK cutie iconbop_radar on November 11th, 2006 05:59 am (UTC)
Thanks! *g* And yay for Clana! (*boggles at self*) :-) They really captured me in that scene and her line really hit me in the gut... I can only begin to imagine what it was like for real Clana shippers. TW and KK were both on wonderful form in last night's ep and they shone in that scene. A real classic! And it seems I'm not completely alone in appreciating it.
mahaliemmahaliem on November 11th, 2006 12:37 am (UTC)
Give her flowers and she'll blow you off. Tell her you have a drug problem and she'll be by your side. ::happily amused sigh::


I actually understand Lois' reasoning. If Oliver disappeared because he's an addict, then there's always some sort of rehab. However if he disappeared because he's a jerk - well, science hasn't come up with a cure for that.

The thing that struck me the most during the Clana scene was how jaw-droppingly gorgeous Clark looked during it. (Shallow, shallow, shallow) But he also looked so earnest and wanting to help her so badly, but sad, too. He was practically reaching out to her, even though he knew she was beyond his grasp.

Then, at the Thanksgiving table, Clark observing the ones he loves, but also set apart from them, it felt bittersweet.

The growing loneliness of Clark is breaking my heart.


K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: TW smilebop_radar on November 11th, 2006 06:02 am (UTC)
I actually understand Lois' reasoning. If Oliver disappeared because he's an addict, then there's always some sort of rehab. However if he disappeared because he's a jerk - well, science hasn't come up with a cure for that.
So true! I admire Lois's reasoning a lot, even if I can't honestly say I'd have as little hesitation as her.

how jaw-droppingly gorgeous Clark looked during it. (Shallow, shallow, shallow) But he also looked so earnest and wanting to help her so badly, but sad, too. He was practically reaching out to her, even though he knew she was beyond his grasp.
Yes, that's it exactly! He was straining so hard--that sense of straining really broke my heart, especially as I was really in Clark's journey in this ep--as you say, his loneliness is breaking my heart at the moment. Awww poor Clark! The thanksgiving dinner was very bittersweet indeed, which is no doubt why I loved it--I'm a sucker for tragic-sweet.
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Christina J.: SV - Broken Clark Bleedingtehjules on November 11th, 2006 11:32 am (UTC)
What's it called when a hero has hero worship, himself? :P I loved any scene with Oliver, so maybe that's why I adored this episode SO much. OT3? Can I get a "hell yeah!"

Clark was very impressive in this episode, both visual and otherwise. In the beginning, I thought that he was going to start whining about how his abilities were a cures, etc, etc, and mope on that for an entire epsiode. Again. But he really stepped up to the plate!

I love your points about Clark resuscitating Lex. When Clark faced Oliver afterward, I couldn't stop thinking how much I wanted him to get ragey and super emotional and/or use physical violence. :D

All in all, I know that most of my flist hated it, but I loved, loved, loved this episode. It gave us Oliver/Lois/Clark and Oliver/Clark, which to me is second best to Clex. I'm happy with that since it looks like our Clex has been smacked down for good. Bastards.

What? I'm not deluded or anything. ;)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lollie ship!bop_radar on November 11th, 2006 08:15 pm (UTC)
What's it called when a hero has hero worship, himself? :P I loved any scene with Oliver, so maybe that's why I adored this episode SO much. OT3? Can I get a "hell yeah!"
HELL, YEAH!! \o/

I loved this ep too. Oliver/Clark is so awesome and it is a soothing balm to the Clexy pain right now. Yes, I'd still rather Clex, but I'll take what I can get--and this ep gave us a little more Clex than recently anyway.

In the beginning, I thought that he was going to start whining about how his abilities were a cures, etc, etc, and mope on that for an entire epsiode. Again. But he really stepped up to the plate!
Yes! Thank god! I'm looooving Clark this season. He's really mature and just when I think he's going to mope again, he doesn't. YAY!

I'm glad someone else enjoyed this eppy too and is on board with the OT3. Apart from anything else they are so damn pretty together!
Natasha: tommiketheclexfactor on November 11th, 2006 03:52 pm (UTC)
I. LOVE. YOU.
You know what? I shared in your love for the Clana scene, and I share in your love for the Clana in Hidden as well. After I watched that episode, especially when Clark shows up at the house NOT dead, and Lana literally jumps in his arms, that was so sweet that I couldn't find fault with it. And I guess I like the Clana when they are at odds.

As far as protecting Lex in front of Clark? I think it had more to do with not wanting to admit that she wasn't completely right about her decision to be with Lex, especially judging from her conversation with Chloe at the end.

And, OMG, the Clex in this episode just renewed my love for them. It was like renewing vows.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Clex lovebop_radar on November 11th, 2006 08:04 pm (UTC)
Re: I. LOVE. YOU.
YAY! \o/ I looooooove the jump into his arms when he was not dead. They really were so sweet there. And I agree that I like the Clana when they are at odds. As an elusive romantic ideal the Clana works really well--the transcendent moments (like in Hidden) or the sorrow for what could have been (as in Rage) work for me. The rest, not so much.

As far as protecting Lex in front of Clark? I think it had more to do with not wanting to admit that she wasn't completely right about her decision to be with Lex, especially judging from her conversation with Chloe at the end.
Mmm... yes, good point, that fits well.

OMG, the Clex in this episode just renewed my love for them. It was like renewing vows.
Yay that someone else thought so! Noone is discussing the Clex! They're all too busy spazzing out about Lana's pregnancy, but seriously this was an old school Clex rescue! It was awesome!
slinkling: greenarrowslinkling on November 12th, 2006 01:59 am (UTC)
Have just watched the ep, and then clicked on over here immediately. I'm sleepy and don't have much coherent to say, but that this post and the episode both made me smiley-happy in equal measure, which is to say, very. :-)

It's the mortality issue that divides him from Clark at a fundamental level, and having lost his parents (when?) Oliver must be hyper-conscious of it.

Well, in the pilot episode, when Lex and Lionel were in the helicopter (pre-meteor shower), Lionel's newspaper had a big headline that said "Queen Industries CEO Missing, Presumed Dead" or something to that effect. So that was 1989; figure Oliver would have been 10 or 11. (We know Lex was 9, but we also just saw Lex attending his ten-year high school reunion in 2006, which implies that Lex graduated from HS at 16 -- not at all implausible, given his intelligence. And one more reason why he would have been ostracized by his classmates, if he had skipped a few grades.)

Apparently, in comicbook canon, Oliver's parents died in a shipwreck when he was a boy (and we've seen that he has a framed photo of his young self with his parents in front of a yacht). I believe, according to the comic books, Oliver was on that ship too, and somehow survived on a desert island for a while, where he taught himself archery and tracking skills in order to hunt for food. Though I'm getting this second- or third-hand, never having read the comics, so I can't swear that I'm right about all of this.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Oliverbop_radar on November 12th, 2006 05:51 am (UTC)
:-) I'm so glad it made you smiley happy.

Lionel's newspaper had a big headline that said "Queen Industries CEO Missing, Presumed Dead" or something to that effect. So that was 1989; figure Oliver would have been 10 or 11.
OMG! I TOTALLY FORGOT THAT. Foreshadowing! Praise! And yes, I can buy that Lex graduated early. I'd heard that about comic-book Oliver as well though I have no familiarity with him at all. I understand he's quite different--though in part that may be because we're seeing a young Oliver. I must say that I love the Oliver that Smallville's constructed.
Diana: Rebooting Destiny -- Clois (by leezh)butterfly on November 12th, 2006 04:08 am (UTC)
I loved all Clark/Lois/Oliver related aspects of the episode. They gave me great joy (and Clark continues to become more Superman-eske -- I am so happy with his growth this year).

Though we also learnt that she's well aware of the power imbalance there (billionaire/tabloid reporter--still more plausible than billionaire/muffin pedlar!).

I found this doubly fascinating because this is the very thing that Lana denies about her relationship with Lex -- we have her claiming to be Lex's equal in more than one previous episode. Lana isn't willing to confront the fact that because of Lex's power and wealth, there is an imbalance in the relationship. Lois, acknowledging it, gives herself a better chance to balance it.

Also -- on a Clark/Lois note, check out the scene where Lois comes into the Kent kitchen in the beginning. Much like he did in Sneeze, Clark straightens his posture when Lois enters the room (double-checked this with my ultra-slash focused roomie, so I don't think I'm seeing things). He's totally developed a subconscious crush on her after her 'tough love' speech in Oracle.

I do really love Lois and Oliver's relationship, though. It'll be hard seeing that end, however it happens.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lollie in costumebop_radar on November 12th, 2006 05:46 am (UTC)
They gave me great joy (and Clark continues to become more Superman-eske -- I am so happy with his growth this year).
Me too! It was beautiful!!

I found this doubly fascinating because this is the very thing that Lana denies about her relationship with Lex -- we have her claiming to be Lex's equal in more than one previous episode. Lana isn't willing to confront the fact that because of Lex's power and wealth, there is an imbalance in the relationship. Lois, acknowledging it, gives herself a better chance to balance it.
I completely agree--it shows another difference between Lois and Lana. Lana blinds herself to the power imbalance to stay in the relationship, but Lois is continually aware of it. And she shows that you don't have to be in denial about it to have a successful relationship--indeed it is a healthier one.

check out the scene where Lois comes into the Kent kitchen in the beginning. Much like he did in Sneeze, Clark straightens his posture when Lois enters the room (double-checked this with my ultra-slash focused roomie, so I don't think I'm seeing things). He's totally developed a subconscious crush on her after her 'tough love' speech in Oracle.
*rushes to the ep* OMG he totally does!! HEEE. I rewatched that scene in Sneeze too. It's very cute of him. YAY! \o/

I do really love Lois and Oliver's relationship, though. It'll be hard seeing that end, however it happens.
Yup. It's a really charming lovely relationship and both of them have worn their hearts on their sleeves for it. It's going to sting no matter what the ending is, I feel. I just hope Clark's there for Lois, in some way... though my heart will bleed for Ollie getting left on his own... Ok, I can't start fretting about this yet.
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Oh how much do I love, love, love reading your thought about SV!!
It's awesome to see there are other people out there who are enjoying the show so much right now besides me.
I love this season, it seriously rocks.
And Rage was such a great episode. I loved how the characters were portrayed in it.

Ollie, such an amazing add to the cast.
This was such a great episode for him. When he first showed up we got to see him as a hero who helps and tries to get others with abilities to also start doing so. But now we get to see he still has a lot of things to figure out and is still battling his fears of getting hurt or dying. It might looked like he was a lot further in the heroes business than Clark, but truth is they are not that far apart.
And how much do I love what his presence is doig for Clark this year? He really is starting to see the big picture, and is turning more and more into Superman in front of our eyes.

Ah, dear Lois! Give her flowers and she'll blow you off. Tell her you have a drug problem and she'll be by your side. ::happily amused sigh::
lol
I love that she stood by Ollie!
It shows how strong and supportive she is.

And I *loved* Clark's comment to Ollie that "Lois isn't Lana."

This is a great season for Lois, I'm so happy with what they are doing with the character.

And they mocked Inquisitor again, twice in this episode.
It makes me hopeful that maybe by the end of the season she'll start working for Daily Planet.

But oh my, GA pushing Lois on that table? Just another reason for her to not like him. If she finds out that Ollie is GA I have a feeling that will be the end of them. :(

Clana scene.
I loved it too. :)
I've been whining the first few episodes that they need to start acting friendly when they are around each other. I'm so glad that they are starting to develop Clana friendship. While romantic Clana bores me to death, they do have such nice potential to be friends.

And the "turn back time" line killed me too. I felt so bad for Clark. He did exactly that, and he ended up loosing his father, Lana, and in the end it seems Lana is miserable and doesn't want to talk about it with him. That has to hurt. :(

And I felt bad for her. She's so young, in second serious relationship in her life (after the first one was all about angst for years). She admitted she'd just like to enjoy life a bit. And she stays pregnant. And not only that but all her friends don't like her boyfriend, and there's a chance he's not being honest with her and is doing some risky business. Yeah Lana, that's a big hole you're into right now.

But I do feel this might turn into a great storyline for Lex.
I have a feeling they plan to do a darker version of Lexmas.
All is set - Lex and Lana are together, she's pregnant.
But I bet she'll loose the baby, or she'll die in childbirth. And even the power he has this time won't help Lex to save her. I bet he won't be happy if he sacrificed a happy future, to be able to change what happens, just to end up powerless to do anything once again.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lollie in costumebop_radar on November 12th, 2006 07:13 pm (UTC)
I love this season, it seriously rocks.
Oh, YAY! I'm loving it too. *clings*

It might look like he was a lot further in the heroes business than Clark, but truth is they are not that far apart. And how much do I love what his presence is doig for Clark this year? He really is starting to see the big picture, and is turning more and more into Superman in front of our eyes.
*nods* Absolutely! I'm glad they've explored different aspects of Oliver now--I think it actually makes him a more powerful role model for Clark because he's not just a one-dimensional ideal hero figure--he's a real guy with flaws and problems of his own. And I'm glad they're shaping each other--I really do feel Clark is growing into Superman this season--in a way that I really like.

This is a great season for Lois, I'm so happy with what they are doing with the character.
Absolutely! Me too! They're really taking her seriously as a character who needs growth and progression throughout the season. And yes, I'm actually hopeful we'll see her get an article at the Daily Planet ...

The Clana was a lovely surprise! I would love to see them explore that connection in friendship more.


I felt so bad for Clark. He did exactly that, and he ended up loosing his father, Lana, and in the end it seems Lana is miserable and doesn't want to talk about it with him. That has to hurt.
*nods* At the very least he thought he was making her happy, giving her back her life and cutting her loose to be happy with someone else. And while he didn't expect that to be Lex and had a pretty bleak view of her chances with Lex, I'm sure it tears at him that she's not happy.

But I bet she'll loose the baby, or she'll die in childbirth. And even the power he has this time won't help Lex to save her. I bet he won't be happy if he sacrificed a happy future, to be able to change what happens, just to end up powerless to do anything once again.
Mmm, you've given me something to think about there! I wonder if that is where they are going with it. It does seem like they're setting up a dark version of Lexmas. Ouch! That's going to be painful.
immal0serbabyimmal0serbaby on November 13th, 2006 12:06 am (UTC)
Although I can't read the entire thing, I love how you look at the eps, I totally agree with what you have to say. I too, love Oliver, and I wouldn't mind there being an entire Green Arrow show. I'd hate to see him and Lois be over, that is so sad. They are such an awesome couple, and I too love how Clark plays into their relationship. =D
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lollie in costumebop_radar on November 13th, 2006 02:26 am (UTC)
Thank you! And I'm glad someone else is enjoying the Lois/Oliver so much. They're a lovely lovely couple. And I would definitely watch a Green Arrow show! But I'd miss his interaction with Clark--they're wonderful together. And I'm stockpiling tissues for the inevitable end of the Lois/Oliver relationship, whenever it occurs. I'm going to be a wreck!
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