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22 November 2006 @ 08:31 pm
Heroes 1.09 (wheeeeee!!!)  

This episode was all sorts of brilliant, but my favourite moment, by far, was Claire's punch-out of Jackie in defence of Zach. I nearly paused in my viewing to squee about it on LJ! ;-) And Claire was elected by all the nerds actually cool people (including the guy in the Battlestar Galactica t-shirt!). Whoo! \o/ This makes me love Zach SO MUCH! And his little speech when 'rescuing' Claire later on was awesome too. I love that Claire smiled when Jackie called him 'your boyfriend the girlfriend'--she's reached the same 'omg!youloser!!' position on such calls as Zach already has. YAY!

On the list of people I do not like is (still) Simone, whose incoherent characterisation continued to baffle me. Why does she believe Peter? And if she does believe Peter, why does she let him go off to possibly die?! Also, why does everyone seem so certain that Peter will die? (I suspect the answer is simply: overstatement for the purposes of drama by the writing team.) Because while he looked seriously injured, he could have been taken to hospital after that... especially if, say, Simone had come along and helped him. Grrr! And don't tell me she's got a gallery to run all of a sudden--that never stopped her mooching around with him or Isaac before!

Nathan's motivation I found far easier to understand. If I saw a disturbing, possibly prophetic painting of my sibling seriously injured, possibly dead, and my sibling was hellbent on recreating this scenario (having already jumped off a building), I might destroy the painting so he wouldn't see it too... and I like Nathan in protector role. I liked his calm 'I am' reply to Simone's waffly 'I'm not sure what I believe any more'. Nathan's firmness of direction is very attractive, even if it is at odds with the plot. If/when he does come on board with the others, he's going to be a powerful ally for his determination and commitment.

Peter on his own was far, far, more interesting than when he's waffling around with Simone (or Mohinder). I found him convincingly heroic for the first time in this episode, even though for a while there I thought his assistance was going to be limited to telling Claire to run and slowing her down by chatting to her on the way. When it did come, I thought his leap with Sylar was genuinely very brave. And it was confronting to see him struggle with Claire's regeneration--that really is a harsh power to have. (The feminist in me is glad that we've seen a guy have that power now too, if only transiently.)

Mohinder got a clue! YAY!! \o/ I *lol*'d a lot during his scenes because he's such a daftie! Yes, honey, you DO have a question: remember that big blinking sign on your computer screen for half of last week's ep?! And of course you already know the answer. Ever heard of looking inside yourself?! *giggle* His daftness amuses me, which is good, because it could be infuriating. I liked the dreamwalker-boy too--very intriguing. And it was really exciting when all the names came up on the computer.

This episode managed to show us progression in several storylines, which I was really grateful for. We also had progress in the Nikki-Micah-DL plot, and I liked the scene where Mycah opened up to his father a lot. I was also really pleased to see DL turn back once Mycah had explained about Jessica and Nikki being sick. DL didn't know the degree to which Nikki was (not) in control of Jessica, so the revelation was important. It's also interesting that Micah thinks Nikki doesn't know about Jessica--until recently that was true, and I guess Micah hasn't been privy to her moments of insight. Please let DL live! He seems like a really nice (if a bit daft) guy, and a far better parent than Nikki!

Loving Mr Bennett too. And I guessed that Mrs Bennett would let her daughter escape--she's Mr B's Achilles heel. I suspect his work absorbs him to such an extent that he neglects her (if not the rest of his family), and he paid the price... though Claire is safe.

The showdown with Sylar was exciting--having Jackie actually get killed was unexpected, and I liked the way they played with the interchangeable cheerleaders--the 'true' cheerleader and the 'fake' one. And now Sylar is in the hands of Mr B.! That will be very interesting indeed. The Evil Pixie was marginally more interesting this episode, though I still found her less than persuasive in dialogue with Mr B. (She needed to elaborate a lot more to persuade him against manipulating Isaac.) I can work with that though--I like the irony in a mindcontroller having poor 'real' verbal persuasive powers. She and the mind-wiping guy are a pretty killer team though. Also, the Pixie's wardrobe is amusing me--she's gone all black and stilletto heeled--ohhhh eeeeevil!pixie! still not scared!

Hiro and Ando! Poor Ando's still waiting for him... I was really glad to see Peter hook up with Ando at least briefly. And it was also good to see him forge on despite them: good heroic persistence there. But mostly I'm glad Ando at least got to see the photograph to know that Hiro did get back in time. I'm looking forward to (presumably) the next ep following this plot thread.

This show's not having a break is it? ::confused by US TV schedules::
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Melissa: Cnutradioreverie on November 22nd, 2006 06:37 am (UTC)
Googletalk! :(
tragicllyhiptragicllyhip on November 22nd, 2006 08:56 am (UTC)
Because I am incapable of paying attention to any show without Tom Welling, its good to read this so I know better what was going on. It was a very exciting episode..so Sylar (but is that Sylar? he doesn't look a thing like the actor they cast to play Sylar) is in the hands of Q-tip girl? Is that how the world is being saved? Because the promos said we'd know what "save the cheerleader..." phrase meant, and she was saved, but how did that save the world. I need to start tivoing the show so I can re-watch more closely after it airs.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Heroes Clairebop_radar on November 22nd, 2006 07:04 pm (UTC)
Heee! Well, I don't know for sure who is cast as Sylar since I've been avoiding spoilers, so I thought it was Sylar, or at least we're supposed to think that just now. The reveal that it's not may well come next week.

Never believe a promo! ;-)

and she was saved, but how did that save the world
Well a cheerleader still died--so we don't know for sure if the world is saved. Though it would make sense if they need Claire to help avert the nuclear explosion--they had to save her first/connect with her, and then she'll play a part in preventing the impending disaster... we presume. Or not. It's ambiguous at the moment.
Vera: shalowater_veral_vera01 on November 22nd, 2006 09:42 pm (UTC)
Kristin on Eonline spilled the beans on the guy cast as Sylar and this week went into another round of denial of a possible Sylar-casting when a different guest star was announced with no word of what this guest star was playing. Maybe we'll see more of him in the "Six Months Earlier" ep coming up and perhaps a reason as to why his face has to be hidden?
jakrarjakrar on November 22nd, 2006 11:08 am (UTC)
I LOVED Nathan trying to protect Peter by destroying the painting, and I loved Peter going ahead with his intention to save Claire, despite that. And the whole confrontation with Sylar was beautifully done. But will Sylar stay in captivity, or will he escape? Is Mr. B going to 'disappear' Peter from the hands of the law? And what will Nathan do when he finds that his brother has been arrested on suspicion of murder and/or vanished into thin air? What is going to happen to Hiro, perhaps stranded (temporarily) in the past? This show is making me crazy -- but in a very good way. I don't suppose anyone is writing any slash...?
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Nathanbop_radar on November 22nd, 2006 07:01 pm (UTC)
I think they probably are ... you could check out ninth_wonders, the Heroes newsletter.
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Kate: Heroes Haydenmskatej on November 22nd, 2006 12:45 pm (UTC)
A cheerleader still died though, so even though Claire was saved, how do we know that they weren't also meant to protect Jackie? No one saved Jackie the cheerleader, which means the world may not be saved after all.


I have to say, I find Mohinder so unbelievably dull and stupid and annoying that I don't find him the least bit attractive.

The only guy I fancy on the show is Nathan. Yummy.
Nora Norwich: claire evolvingnorwich36 on November 22nd, 2006 04:04 pm (UTC)
I agree that the "save the cheerleader" thing is very ambiguous--and since I loved the fact that Jackie, despite being a bitch, was thinking about Claire literally with her final breath, I almost want her to be the cheerleader who had to be saved. On the other hand, I was going through screencaps to make icons yesterday, and if Hiro's warning is at *all* linked to Isaac's paintings, Claire is clearly the cheerleader, since there were a ton of places where his drawings corresponded to her actions (and not just the prophecies concerning Sylar's attack).
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Nathanbop_radar on November 22nd, 2006 06:52 pm (UTC)
Nathan is by far the best (and hottest) character on the show. *clings*

And I loved that a cheerleader got killed. I definitely don't think they've saved the world yet... and I kinda hated that whole 'save the cheerleader, save the world' slogan anyway, so if it gets debunked I will be quite pleased. :-)
Nora Norwich: super hironorwich36 on November 22nd, 2006 04:16 pm (UTC)
We have different takes on the characterization in the ep, that's for sure! (If you are avoiding my review because of the preview spoilers, I can mail you the review sans spoilers, if you would like).

I didn't see Simone's characterization as waffly; I saw it as her taking a step forward into trusting Peter. I don't think she actually *believes* in the prophecies, but she sees they are important to him, so she gives him the information that he is seeking. I honestly thought that was a lot more admirable than what Nathan did. I said in my review that one of the overarching themes of this ep seems to be that trying to protect people from their destinies (or their own choices, if you prefer non-SV language) doesn't work: Dr. Suresh can't protect Mohinder; Mr. Bennett can't protect Claire; Micah can't protect Niki; Nathan can't protect Peter; and, I would guess, Hiro can't protect the waitress.

The Mr. Bennett/Mrs. Bennett stuff was interesting, I thought. Clearly, she's not in the loop, but honestly, that was a big strategic mistake on his part. He didn't have to tell them the truth, necessarily, but couldn't he have said that he had been receiving threats at work and Claire might be in danger? That would have prevented the whole situation, I thought.

Like you, I was a lot more impressed with Peter in this episode than I've ever been before. He had no way of knowing he wouldn't die, so the fact that he was still trying to help (even if rather ineffectually at first) impressed me. And I'm also intrigued about what's going to happen to Sylar in custody, though I would bet he escapes soon.

There is a new episode next week (it's still November sweeps; the only reason some shows aren't having new eps this week is because of Thanksgiving). My guess is that after that we will have at most one new episode until January. (Oh, and fyi no new SV this week or next week, though I believe there is one scheduled in December).
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Hirobop_radar on November 22nd, 2006 07:01 pm (UTC)
If you are avoiding my review because of the preview spoilers, I can mail you the review sans spoilers, if you would like
I can probably deal with preview spoilers for this show. And no, that wasn't the reason I hadn't got over there yet--just busy. :-)

she sees they are important to him, so she gives him the information that he is seeking
Yes, but why does she care about him? I don't buy her attraction to him at all. I think it's poorly written and implausible, so I don't connect with the basis on which she cares about what's important to Peter. I can try and wing it through that, but then when she makes baffling decisions like showing him an image of himself in danger and then sending him off alone to recreate that scenario, she loses all internal sense to me. Who is this woman? I don't understand her. I will go and read your review to become enlightened! ;-)

one of the overarching themes of this ep seems to be that trying to protect people from their destinies
*nods* That IS true, and therefore Simone is (or will be) proved 'right' and Nathan 'wrong'. However, I personally found Nathan's the better written and coherently characterised of the two responses--and that worked well for me because it makes the reveal that he's 'wrong' more powerful. Just as the Mr Bennett stuff was interesting--like Nathan, he thinks he's done everything he can to prevent fate, but he overlooked a human connection.

He had no way of knowing he wouldn't die
Yes, it was a real risk and he faced it bravely. I also found him much more sympathetic (forgot to say in my review) once he admitted the nature of his powers and that when not near others with powers he's 'nothing really'. Facing the nature of his powers openly made him more heroic in my eyes, and I'm happy about that.

Ah, thanks for letting me know about SV. I am out of 'the loop' so wasn't sure. There's no BSG this week--it's in two weeks' time. Oh well, I could use a catch up break!
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Nathanbop_radar on November 22nd, 2006 06:53 pm (UTC)
*nods* I liked him too, which is new for me, and I'm glad.
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Nathanbop_radar on November 22nd, 2006 11:05 pm (UTC)
Was that not the *best thing ever*?
'Twas brilliant! I love, love, loved it.

plus his body is twisted out of any kind of normal, natural proportions
I failed to pick up on that third part to be honest. I saw the blood and the open eyes but those alone weren't enough for me. I haven't rewatched or freezed the shot though, so I'm sure you're right. That makes more sense.

the choice *is* Peter's to make whether he goes or not; Nathan really doesn't get to make it for him
Oh, definitely! And this allowed me 'into' Peter's plot. The conflict between him and Nathan is nicely set up, because Peter is in the right here, no matter how good Nathan's intentions. Nathan's arrogant enough to think his brother needs protecting, but Peter proved his self-sufficiency in this ep. Consequently, I'm finally enjoying him! He's not a weakling anymore.

Nathan's totally ending up on Team Save the World.
Totally! Half the reason I loved him destroying it is because we can tell he's going to be dragged back to it eventually. (YAY!)

He seemed as amused by Mohinder's daftness as you and I were and that made it all *even better*.
Yes! He did! That was brilliant. Because a 12-year-old kid with visionary powers is more cluey than Mohinder. *giggle*

I find his silence compelling to the point that I almost never want him to speak.
The Haitian, huh? OK. Yes, his silence is very powerful. Although it makes him far more sympathetic/interesting to me than the Evil Pixie with her pointless yakking on, and I'm not sure that's what the writers actually intend!

The remaining 11 episodes will run consecutively without pre-emption or repeats.
Oh yay! Thanks so much for filling me in. That sounds promising. I think the hiatus is going to be agony (loving this show so much!) but I'm glad that when it returns there will be consecutive eps.