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06 March 2007 @ 02:59 am
Battlestar Galactica 3.17 Maelstrom  
This is not my meta post.


Oh I can't do this, I can't do this. I can't. No. I just... that did not just happen. *denies* Please, nooooooo! I've been sobbing for half an hour and I can't stop. I shouldn't be posting but I'm all alone here and I ... I was unspoiled and I didn't know, I didn't know. *cries* When I realised the set-up was for death, about a third of the way in, I just lost it. Oh, god!

And I wanted to KILL that frakking 'bonus scene'. Thanks, thanks SO MUCH for showing me a DEAD PERSON when I'm still grieving. *stabs* As for the preview... sorry, no. Sorry, we do not just roll on into the next ep as if nothing happened. FRAK!

I know I'm not the only one freaking out because I saw the cut-tags earlier. But if anyone wants to come and offer a little reassurance of that, it would be very welcome because I think my brain is broken.

Oh, GOD! *cries*

ETA: Ah, interwebs, you are balm to my wounds. Quick stops past the journals of asta77, wisteria_, indigo419 and widget285 and I'm feeling looots better. I may have even giggled! Thank you!

Now I just feel like a huge duffer for being so woobie about it. But this is one of the reasons I like being unspoiled--I get to feel things. Right now, all I'm feeling is a headache and the anticipation of being extremely emotionally hungover and exhausted at work tomorrow... but you take the good with the bad, y'know?! ;-)

Inevitably, I will be back to talk about What All This Means for Lee at some stage... (Oh, LEEEE!!!) When my brain has recovered. *sleeps*
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kara/Lee dreamybop_radar on March 5th, 2007 04:28 pm (UTC)
Both?!!! *cries* OMG, I am gasping for air. I swear, I do like being unspoiled--in the long-run, I know I will be happy that I got to really feel the impact of this episode but OH MY GOD THE PAIN! *hugs back*

I have got very, very good at avoiding spoilers. I have a special fast eye-flick-away that I employ whenever there's a risk. *nods*
dianora: bsg lee kara kissdianora2 on March 5th, 2007 04:46 pm (UTC)
I was spoiled and was cringing all night imagining the reactions of my unspoiled friends. *hugs* Since we will have a fourth season I am much less upset about this than I used to be. :)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lee/Kara boundbop_radar on March 5th, 2007 06:03 pm (UTC)
Oh, thank you!! It really was terribly painful. They telegraphed her death a lot in this episode, but not at all leading up to it, so it all felt so dizzyingly fast if you were unspoiled.

And yes, fourth season means YAY! Though I'm only just dealing with the fact that Kara won't be in the rest of this season. She has to be in fourth season though. Surely!
bittermint: defiantbittermint on March 5th, 2007 05:04 pm (UTC)
I was not only unspoiled, I didn't even see that ending coming even though they telegraphed it in practically every scene.

I just... I can't believe she's gone. *cries*
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kara/Lee boxing hugbop_radar on March 5th, 2007 06:01 pm (UTC)
Oh no! Omg! That's awful. I went into denial massively--I repeated 'no, no, please, no' over and over a great deal through my tears.

I know there's a fourth season planned and people figure she'll come back in some way then. That helps me at an intellectual level to deal with it, but it's still a devastating plot twist.
greygreycoupon on March 5th, 2007 06:01 pm (UTC)
Wow. I was seriously wondering last night if anyone managed to stay unspoiled for this.

*hugs*

I'm not sure we have seen the last of Kara. This is not a spoiler at all since actually we have no idea of Kara's fate.

As for the preview, remember the ones they show right after the ep have STUNK all season long. Like The Woman King trailer that was just Zarek ranting about Baltar getting a trial. We should have a better trailer in a few days. I don't know what the editors issue is.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kara/Lee boxing hugbop_radar on March 5th, 2007 06:06 pm (UTC)
Yeah, my rational brain says it makes no sense that Kara is gone forever. But my heart (and gut) is still processing the blow...

I knew there was a 'big thing' about this ep because I'd seen everyone cut-tagging about it. But the last time there was this much buzz around an ep it was Unfinished Business and that worked out great. I didn't pick up that the buzz was about character death.

And yeah, the previews SUCK. I very rarely see them--most of my dls cut off straight on the credits, and frankly I'd prefer that to being reminded of how clunky the production/editing can be.
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: DW woebop_radar on March 5th, 2007 08:25 pm (UTC)
It's easier to take now that dawn has come... *stares out the window*
Seriously, BAD IDEA to watch it in the middle of the night.

But still WOE.
blowjobs for jesus: bsg starbuck showing tummykristiinthedark on March 5th, 2007 07:23 pm (UTC)
She's not dead! Or if she's dead, she not gone. And no, I'm not spoiled, nor was I really spoiled for last night's ep. I knew Leoben would be on with the hot hot hot HOT sex scene, but that was my spoilery. So, what do I think? Either a) she's gone through some portal to Earth OR (and this is the one I'm rooting for) b) she's a Cylon. *g* It actually never occurred to me that she was really gone, because otherwise the ep made no sense. It's your destiny to die a meaningless death? I think not!

*hugs*
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kara glowybop_radar on March 5th, 2007 08:28 pm (UTC)
You are wise and I agree. I'm rooting for the first option though--I think it's most likely.

I didn't manage to move through my denial and grief fast enough while watching the ep. I pretty much got to the 'OMG, noooo!!' stage and stuck there. There was a brief moment where I talked myself into the 'but she'll come back in some way' part, but then I realised that it didn't make any difference to how broken Lee's heart will be right now and then I started bawling again...
Becky: they're just crayonssadface on March 5th, 2007 07:59 pm (UTC)
Today I found out Kara and Starbuck are the same person. This makes things so much clearer.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Maggie G diebop_radar on March 5th, 2007 08:29 pm (UTC)
It does!

And you're back! *points at you*
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sarmoti: BSG - Kara b&wsarmoti on March 6th, 2007 12:18 am (UTC)
Oh noes! I'm usually not spoiled but I was for this (saw enough hinting about it that I finally just started to click on stuff) and I really really wanted to warn the unspoiled to brace themselves or stock up on booze or valium or something, but at the same time I of course didn't want to ruin any surprises! I sort of wish I'd been able to avoid this spoiler, but at the same time I'm glad I had a few weeks for it all to sink in before I had to watch the episode and have my heart torn out.

What All This Means for Lee

I just...OH LEEEEEEEE! *hugs him* I'm already imagining that the opening shot of next week's episode will be of Lee looking FORLORN. (Or it'll be of Baltar or some shit, wtf, let us grieve for a damn moment, show!)
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lee in darknessbop_radar on March 6th, 2007 12:36 am (UTC)
Awww, thank you for your sympathy! *hugs* I think it would have been good to know to stock up on some type of comfort-product. Ironically, I got a hint like that before Unfinished Business and was scared as hell to watch that eppy (I roped in a friend to watch with me). In retrospect, that was misplaced anxiety! Last night was gut-wrenching. There was a point where I actually thought I was freaking out so much I might have to call someone at 3am in the morning! (Thank god for LJ--for once my timezones worked for me!) I know I'm still in shock, so I think it's probably good you've had a little time to let it sink in. I'm very envious of all those fans managing to be emotionally distant from the ep. I'm buzzing with analysis I want to get into, but it's swamped by grief for now.

OH LEEEEEEEE! *hugs him* I'm already imagining that the opening shot of next week's episode will be of Lee looking FORLORN
It's Lee that really killed me. (As always.) This journey could be good for Kara (assuming she returns) but regardless of the outcome, Lee has to live through the grief. And if she's really dead, then it's those grieving for her who will break my heart. I'm so so glad he was at her side so much in those final days and moments, but I'm also absolutely gut-wrenchingly heartbroken for him. I'm kind of glad they didn't flash back to him at the end because I don't think I could have dealt with the GUTTED. Part of Lee died with Kara, I swear. And oh, what a mindfuck that he said 'trust me' (though I LOVE that he did and he's so strong now!).

Or it'll be of Baltar or some shit, wtf, let us grieve for a damn moment, show!
Yeah, that was my reaction to the trailer--but that's partly because I don't usually see them and they are lame and it jolted me. I fear that the show WILL just power on in many ways, and I AM looking forward to Lee being involved with the trial but I didn't realise that I would be watching those eps without any Kara anywhere. *weeps* Oh, LEEEEE!!! The worst thing is, noone will understand. His grief will by necessity be solitary. I guess everyone's is...
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daybreak777: Kara prayingdaybreak777 on March 6th, 2007 02:05 am (UTC)
But Lee will be okay, won’t he? *Shrugs out of denial* He won’t, how could he? (Gods the way he looked at her, even she couldn't take it.)

My ship, Bop! While the large part of me mourns Kara Thrace so that I can’t even talk about it (whatever happens she and the show are forever different), the other part of me worries about Lee. Lee alive without her. He’s not going to be okay. He was no more okay before this ep than she was. My poor broken ones. They will fix it, right?

I don’t care right now what happens to anyone else. They will be together someday. They must. Right? Nothing can separate them for long. Not spouses, not destiny, not death! *sniffling*

Waiting to read Bop's talk that will say how Lee will somehow deal? cope? with this. *Back into denial*

One is never alone on LJ, thank goodness.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Karabop_radar on March 6th, 2007 03:15 am (UTC)
Gods the way he looked at her, even she couldn't take it
When in particular? *curious*

whatever happens she and the show are forever different
That's what broke me last night. I see everyone being strong and perky and distanced and analytical, but I'm still broken right now. When I realised she was going to die, I *did* say to myself 'oh but she'll be back in some way' but it didn't really help because this will still have happened.

I have a lot to say about Lee, and actually not all of it is despairing. (Which is not to say that I'm not heartbroken for him!) I think this is both the best and worst timing for this ever to happen to him. Worst in that it will haunt him forever that he turned her down so soon before her death and that he was happy(ish) but she wasn't, and best because I think he's built some emotional resilience, particularly where 'living on despite everything' is concerned. He's faced death before, after all, and he is not the same guy as the Lee who wanted to slip away into nothingness. He'll live and he'll try to live well for Kara's sake (and his own), I suspect. He will have grief, and if she ever comes back, in any form, it will absolutely GUT him, because to some degree he'll have to put a lid on his emotions to get on with life. But... yes, I think Lee will handle it somehow. And I trust in Kara too that whatever journey she undergoes she will be strong enough to bear it... right?! She couldn't come back more broken could she?! *trembles*

Ship-wise, I was actually overjoyed at the way the ep played out--Lee was at her side so much in this 'it will always be the two of us' kind of way, that makes me firmly believe that if/when she does come back there will be reuniting.
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(Anonymous) on March 6th, 2007 02:13 am (UTC)
I really expected her to wake up in a Cylon vat right after she died. I was very surprised when that didn't happen. I hadn't even thought about the whole portal to earth idea. Just as long as she comes back!

sorry about the anon post--LJ won't let me log in because it is stupid.

CapnZebbie

K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Karabop_radar on March 6th, 2007 02:57 am (UTC)
Hee! Yeah, I've seen a few people mention the vat. I so don't want her to be a Cylon, so I was totally bidding for it to be a portal to Earth.
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K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kara glowybop_radar on March 6th, 2007 03:07 am (UTC)
Missed the ending as in didn't see it coming or didn't see the ending?! Either way that's AWFUL.

And yes, I really REALLY don't want her to be a Cylon and will probably be saying so at length (and possibly with dot points! no, not really) in my meta post. ;-)
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Mrs. RosiePosie Bamber-Crowe (aka Cristy): starbuckrosie_posie77 on March 9th, 2007 01:37 pm (UTC)
i agree with kristin. i believe she's gone through sort of portal through Earth... hope she won't be back as a head!kara, or at least as a head!kara only.
Starbuck lives!
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kara glowybop_radar on March 9th, 2007 10:06 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I really like that idea! :-) Long live Starbuck!