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13 April 2007 @ 07:16 pm
Battlestar Galactica Essay: Kara/Lee/Destiny (Part I)  
OK, I've been promising threatening to write this essay since the finale, and the longer I delayed posting, the more I wanted to say in it so it's going to be split into two parts. This first part looks at the significance of the characters in the overall structure of the show. The second part will take a look at their individual internal (emotional) journeys. This essay contains spoilers up to the end of Season 3, and also refers to the clarification that Ron Moore gave in the podcast for 'Crossroads Part II'.

Overview of survival: mini-series through Season 3
One of the main reasons I found 'Crossroads' so exciting a finale was the way it reconnected Lee's destiny with Kara's, and beyond that to the survival of the fleet as a whole. I'm a Lee fan first and foremost, so I appreciated him playing such a key role, but more than that, I appreciated that the show returned once again to the idea that Lee and Kara together effect not only each others' survival but the whole of humanity's. Keeping the idea of 'survival' as central, it seems to me that we've seen several distinctly different phases in their journeys, with another opening up with Kara's resurrection.

Stage One: initial escape
Having established the Cylon threat in the mini-series, the show then went on to show our 'heroes' overcoming the obstacles set in their way. In the mini and Season One, Kara and Lee were established as a team who working together were greater than the sum of their parts. In this phase, Kara and Lee prove themselves not only able to save each other from death, but also to save themselves (and others):
- in the mini-series, Kara believes Lee is dead, while Lee saves Colonial One. Once reunited, Kara saves Lee's life when his viper loses power.
- when Kara goes missing in 'You Can't Go Home Again', Lee's willing to put the survival of the fleet in danger to find her, but she saves herself by flying a Cylon raptor back to reunite in the sky with Lee
- in 'The Hand of God', with the fleet running out of tylium, Kara comes up with a plan to successfully attack a Cylon refinery, but she's injured so Lee takes over the flying duties and successfully executes a Starbuck-like flight to destroy the Cylon base.

Stage Two: heightened connection
The first half of Season two raised the idea that Kara and Lee were linked to a greater destiny. However, this begins with their first lengthy separation from each other. It at first appears as if their journeys are leading them in different directions; Kara retrieves the 'Arrow of Apollo' (which supposedly will point the way to Earth) while Lee helps Roslin escape to form a breakaway fleet that got to Kobol. In fact, these two events lead to Lee and Kara being among the five people who see the map to Earth in the Temple of Athena.

This period seems to me to be a 'peak' in the idea that these two are fated to help Roslin lead the fleet forward to Earth. (Of course, the nature of Roslin's visions can be questioned, but that's a matter for a different essay.) Shortly after Kobol, we saw the show affirm again that Lee and Kara owe each other their lives in 'Flight of the Phoenix'. This time, the threat is simultaneously to both of them and they assist one another to avoid suffocation. It's a new 'height' in the pattern of them combining powers to ensure survival.

Stage Three: faltering
In the second half of Season 2, things take a bleaker turn. In 'Resurrection ship', Kara is given the task of planning the destruction of a Cylon resurrection ship and seeks Lee's help. This seems like a classic set-up to have them combine their skills to aid the fleet's survival, but Kara is also co-opted to assassinate Pegasus Commander Cain once the Cylon ship's been taken out. Lee promises to back her up though they're both tortured by the prospect of the action. While the ship is successfully destroyed, things fall apart when Lee is forced to eject into space. He finds a leak in his spacesuit and 'gives up' on life, an apology to Kara his last words. Lee is brought back to life, but Kara, this time, has no part in ensuring his survival. So we have a failure on multiple levels: of Lee to back up Kara, of Kara to be the force that saves Lee.

This is the beginning of a real 'low' for the pilots professionally: Lee struggles with depression, Kara sacrifices her 'top-gun' status in 'Scar'. But things fall even further apart, when Lee's among the bar patrons taken hostage on Cloud Nine in 'Sacrifice', Kara is sent to storm the bar. The set-up seems like it will result in Lee working from within and Kara from without to combine their powers and resolve the crisis. Instead, Kara ends up shooting Lee accidentally herself. Their 'heroic' qualities of being able to overcome all obstacles and save each other's lives are nowhere in evidence in this dark phase.

Stage Four: separation
At this point, it felt to me that the show had set up the connection between Lee, Kara and Destiny, only to knock it down again and show all the ways in which this was not true. While painful to watch, it's in keeping with the way Battlestar Galactica explores the conflict between belief in predestiny versus the primacy of personal agency and self-determination.

A long period of separation follows, during which the two pilot's fates seem to take different courses. Kara settles on New Caprica, while Lee remains in orbit around the planet as Commander of the Pegasus. When the Cylon fleet appears, Lee convinces the Admiral that the fleet should jump away to survive. When Adama connects with the resistance and organises a rescue, Lee initially argues against taking this risk. Such a move would not only have split the remaining human population in two, but would also have separated Lee and Kara permanently. The phase of 'separation' reaches its peak. But Lee struggles with his decision to let Adama return alone to rescue the New Capricans, and he ends up returning and sacrificing the Pegasus to bring about the rescue and reunite the human population (including Kara, though it's telling that there's still no real reconnection between Lee and Kara at this stage).

Stage five: entanglement/stagnation
Emotional entanglement characterises the next phase, in Season 3, but since I'm leaving the relationship analysis until later, I won't go into that too deeply. However, in 'The Eye of Jupiter', Kara's Raptor gets shot down as nukes are pointed at the algae planet. This time, the connection between Lee, Kara and mutual survival comes via their spouses: Sam insists on Lee sending a rescue party, and Lee sends Dee. All of them narrowly escape as the algae planet breaks apart. It's an acknowledgment that at the moment, their separate lives are all-powerful: even when survival is at stake, they're at one remove from one another.

Individually, both Kara and Lee have much to rebuild. Lee has his weight issue (pause for inevitable *snerk*) to overcome, and he also starts to question his career (will he be stuck as CAG until his father dies?). Kara returns from New Caprica emotionally scarred. She's challenged by Adama to pull herself back together, and she rises to the challenge, but underneath she's still tormented by memories of being held by Leoben during the Cylon occupation. Both of them demonstrate some 'natural' capacity for growth, but it is limited. A shake-up is necessary and imminent.

Stage six: renewal/rebirth
It's not until Maelstrom that their destinies are really clearly linked again. When Kara experiences a crisis of faith in her flying, it falls to Lee to decide whether to put her in the air or not. He does so even when she herself refuses, by promising to fly her wing and keep her safe. This results in her death.

This could be read as the final debunking of the myth of their linked fates: not only does Lee not save Kara, he's (partly) responsible for her death. It's an interesting balance to the fear that Kara faced in 'Sacrifice' when she thinks she could have killed her best friend.

But as we now know, Kara's death is actually the start of something new. In 'Crossroads' Lee picks up a bogey on his scanner that turns out to be Kara. She announces she's found Earth and will take them there. This is a return to the idea, first raised by the 'Arrow of Apollo' plot arc, that Kara's destiny is to lead them to Earth. If so, what is Lee's role? The signs indicate that he's a key link between her and the rest of the fleet--he is the last to see her go and the first to see her return. Her last and first words are to him.

Complementary forces/energy
At a symbolic level, Kara and Lee represent very different forces.

Kara's energy has always been directed externally. She's a forward-driving influence, someone who thinks outside-the-box. She's a risk taker, with the type of 'fluke' results commonly associated with classic hero figures. Her acts are often showy and individual, her missions solo ones. She provides breakthroughs and forward momentum. She's a maverick, a creative force, and she's also very religious. The 'special destiny' that the oracle reveals for her is connected to her creativity (her painting), her beliefs (she experiences visions in the days before her death), and also to her role within the fleet ('the hotshot pilot').

In contrast, Lee represents an impulse to order and convention. He engages with political and community issues and he defends the established structures of democracy that are a legacy of the Colonies. His strengths lie in leading and motivating others, in astute strategic and tactical decision making, as well as his strong personal loyalty. He's more inward-directed than Kara, and he shows a capacity for self-sacrifice. Where Kara's heroism is solitary and showy, his is undemonstrative (the destruction of the Pegasus was very understated) and community-minded (he 'mutinies' to support democracy). Unlike Kara, he's an atheist, and he bases his decisions on solid analysis and experience, not faith.

Chaos versus order. Religion versus science. Kara and Lee represent opposing energies that ultimately need to be in balance to ensure harmony, and perhaps survival itself.

These are, however, not inflexible or fixed positions. At significant times, we've seen Kara and Lee swap roles. In 'The Hand of God' they traded places professionally, with Kara providing the tactics and leadership and Lee the hotshot piloting. With greater significance, the New Caprican arc had them expressing reverse impulses: Kara opted for settling the planet, building a stable life there in a new community, while Lee expressed determination to drive forward, even to find Earth. Of course, New Caprica proved to be a false destination, its permanence and security illusionary.

Rebirth/redemption
I'm a sucker for redemption or rebirth plots, and the end of Season 3 signalled that for both Kara and Lee.

Kara's is a literal rebirth--Ron has clarified that she has been 'resurrected'. But 'Maelstrom' is significant at an emotional level as well. In her visions, Kara revisits her mother--something she needs to do to put the abuse in her past behind her. Leoben has also been a source of unresolved tension for Kara, and he features as a sort of spirit guide in her visions. Before her death, Kara 'touches base' with the significant people in her life, reflecting on their relationships in a way that shows both healing and emotional growth. Approaching her death, she insists that she's not afraid any more and begs Lee to let her go. A flash of white light is followed by the image of a younger Kara smiling (no longer abused or resentful).

Kara has always been a survivor--as hotshot pilot cheating death is her life. So her challenge in this arc is to face and accept death. In contrast, Lee, who has acknowledged that he would find death a release, is given the challenge of living and finding purpose in a seemingly meaningless world.

The trial plot-arc provides Lee with his own rebirth arc and the chance to resolve emotional burdens that he's carrying. In deciding to join Gaius's legal team, Lee's exploring a side of himself that he's had locked away. It renews his attraction to issues of right and wrong, and it provides him with a chance to reconnect with the part of himself that believes passionately that despite everything they have to strive to maintain both compassion and the security of the legal/political structure. In these final episodes of season 3 we see Lee stripped of significant markers of identity: he removes his 'wings' and title, his wife leaves him, he is estranged from his father. This stripping away culminates in his testimony and the truths which pour out of him, the acknowledgment of guilt, a healing process for both Lee and the fleet as a whole (or at least his father!).

In his testimony, Lee acknowledges the compromises that have been made, have had to be made by both himself as an individual and the fleet as a whole. Survival demands compromise, and if Lee, superficially one of the most rigid, 'rule-bound' characters on Galactica, can come to terms with this, then there is hope for the community as a whole. There's a sense of energy and renewal in the final sequence as well, as Lee returns to his role as Viper pilot, having come full circle, to meet Kara in the air.

The set-up into Season 3 sees atheist Lee confronted with the resurrection of his best friend. It sees her claiming to have found a way to Earth and be going to lead them there. This will, you would imagine, give Lee something of a crisis. But despite everything they've gone through, his loyalty to Kara is absolute. 'Maelstrom' reminded us of that, and I think we'll see him return to that again, after some struggle. Ron has clarified that it's Kara's destiny to find Earth. Only the extremely short-sighted would fail to notice Lee's Viper beside hers in that anvilicious final sequence. It's not much of a stretch, surely, to imagine that they will both be instrumental in leading the fleet to Earth. There will also be a need to come into some kind of harmony with the forces/energies that each represents, either internally (within each character) or externally (within the plot of the show). Kara's just given us another big jump forward. Will Lee match that with community-building and leadership? And/or will we see the balance reflected at a character/relationship level? Which leads me to Part Two...
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Nora Norwich: Starbuck skepticalnorwich36 on April 13th, 2007 03:00 pm (UTC)
Ooh, you're going with resurrection as an explanation for Kara? I like that explanation.

Great essay! I love your analysis.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Karabop_radar on April 13th, 2007 11:01 pm (UTC)
Thank you! And yup, I am. :-)
Mistress Spinmlsky on April 13th, 2007 03:34 pm (UTC)
I love reading your essays! The majority of the time you say exactly what I'm thinking...but so much better than I can.

*skips off to the next part*
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kara/Lee dreamybop_radar on April 13th, 2007 11:03 pm (UTC)
Thank you. :-) This one took me aaages if it's any consolation! ;-) It's not always easy to express what we feel instinctively/respond to at a subconscious level on the show.
daybreak777: sunsetdaybreak777 on April 13th, 2007 04:00 pm (UTC)
Wow, what a great post. You are deep in a way that I’m not, but your essays did bring up some questions unresolved for me by season’s end.

First, I definitely believe that Lee is as key to humanity’s future as Kara. In CR2, he was like the moral compass. What he says about changing the rules, improvising, are like instructions for how humanity or a civil humanity needs to survive right now. I hope he is key to their survival on his own too, outside of Kara.

However, he did convince Kara to go up into the air. Whatever she discovered, she might not have without his influence. I hope just supporting Kara is not the only way he’s key but either way he’s key.

Such a move would not only have split the remaining human population in two, but would also have separated Lee and Kara permanently.
Unresolved question for me: How could Lee have left Kara behind on New Caprica? I just never understood this. If I could just have seen him struggle a bit with this like in YCGHA or EOJ, then I might have understood his decision a bit more. I know it was the right decision for Lee but sometimes I just want to see his struggle more. It’s the shipper in me, I know. (Like Adama threatening to nuke algae planet. Don’t these people love each other?)

Same thing with Kara’s death. In part 2 of your essay, you mentioned how by CR1 Lee was no longer going through the grieving process. But Lee’s grief was so internal and I just don’t see how he moved past it so quickly. Did he really? I don’t know! That’s why Sam endeared himself so to me, he was hurting so plainly.

Kara may lead the RTF to Earth but what will they do when they get there? Once there, I think that Lee will be instrumental in putting humanity back together so they don’t stay a ‘gang’ and become a society again.

I know your post wasn’t about this but I’m a bit disappointed in Adama and Roslin. I used to think they would keep humanity on the straight and narrow. Adama was so clear to not have the military be the government’s police. Roslin made sure that prisoners were fed, that resources were distributed equally. This season, these characters have faltered humanly and realistically. And it has taken people like Chief (resident Cylon?) and Lee (the son definitely rising) to keep humanity and morality on track. It’s like the children becoming the parents or something like that.

Kara can be all flashy and piloty and destiny and back-from-death girl. Love her. But the real job of saving humanity is the work that happens after they find Earth. We’ll never see this but I hope it’s work they do together. How does one become a civilization again? My greatest hope is to one day see Kara supporting Lee in this work that he does best, just as he has supported her. And I think we’re getting closer to that.

Your posts certainly get me thinking!
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kara/Lee collapsedbop_radar on April 13th, 2007 11:14 pm (UTC)
Ohh, thanks for the long response!

I hope just supporting Kara is not the only way he’s key but either way he’s key.
Me too. I agree that I'd like to think Lee is key in his own way--especially as moral compass, as you say. But when I start thinking about that, I worry that I'm too fanatical a Lee fan! ;-) So it's nice to hear others feel the same way.

(Like Adama threatening to nuke algae planet. Don’t these people love each other?)
Well I kind of agree. Sometimes it does feel that the writers throw out a terrible scenario that we all know won't really happen just to make it seem like more's at stake. I felt that way about Lee's intention to leave the New Capricans behind--I didn't believe he'd ever really do it. But I agree that the possiblility that he might have is ouchy: does it help that he confessed he's tortured by that? ;-)

In part 2 of your essay, you mentioned how by CR1 Lee was no longer going through the grieving process.
Eep! Did I? I really didn't mean to imply that.

Lee will be instrumental in putting humanity back together so they don’t stay a ‘gang’ and become a society again.
I'd like to think so, yes, and I guess this essay is my way of saying that I feel it's logical that he'd play that role.

This season, these characters have faltered humanly and realistically. And it has taken people like Chief (resident Cylon?) and Lee (the son definitely rising) to keep humanity and morality on track. It’s like the children becoming the parents or something like that.
Oh, very interesting observation! I always had more ambiguous feelings about Adama, and I felt Roslin lost her way in Season 2, not just Season 3, but I agree that on the show this season has shown other characters keeping them 'straight'. Though there's also been a bit of them keeping each other straight. I do wonder if in the show's closing, we'll see a passing of the torch to the younger generation...

How does one become a civilization again? My greatest hope is to one day see Kara supporting Lee in this work that he does best, just as he has supported her. And I think we’re getting closer to that.
Awww, that's a lovely thought. I agree--the idea of how to build a civilisation again is amazing fodder for thought, and if BSG does end with the settlement of Earth in some way, then there will be a lot of room for speculative fanfic spinning off that!
daybreak777daybreak777 on April 14th, 2007 04:55 pm (UTC)
Glad you liked the long response. I do tend to run on, I could discuss this show forever. :)

I didn't believe he'd ever really do it. But I agree that the possiblility that he might have is ouchy: does it help that he confessed he's tortured by that? ;-)

Sometimes on this show, I really don't know what the characters might do. Honestly. That's what makes it fun to watch but a little scary too. It did help to see Lee so tortured by the things he's done. I hadn't sensed his conflict about leaving everyone on New Caprica. But that's Lee and a lot of the characters, holding everything inside until they snap.

I'm curious, how did you think Roslin lost her way in Season 2?

K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Roslin powerbop_radar on April 15th, 2007 11:23 am (UTC)
I know! It IS a bit scary. ;-) When he said that in the trial it made sense in retrospect--I never thought Lee was that comfortable with the idea of leaving the New Capricans, I think the only reason he ever suggested it was because he thought it the logical/right decision for survival and he is very pragmatic. But his heart overruled him, and once the fleet was reunited we saw him far more motivated again--it's like he got his heart back, in a way, so it makes sense to me that he regrets ever considering 'severing' himself from that compassionate side.

how did you think Roslin lost her way in Season 2?
Ohh, there's a big subject! ;-) Um, well there's the Cain assassination plan for starters. Even if you agree with her logic, that's a huge step to take morally/politically and it's a really significant shift for her into acting outside the law. The fact that that occurred around the time when she was also acting as a religious leader, was more and more willing to exploit that power: I guess I saw that the power she'd been given led to some pretty dark places. And I think we saw that with the decision on abortions (which she was personally conflicted about), and then far more with the rigging of the elections. She became so sure that she and she alone should rule as president, and even though I think in many ways she's right, I felt the show was trying to show that that office, that power corrupted. Or at the very least led to moral compromise. Does that make sense? The fact that Season 3 ended with us seeing the debauched presidency of Baltar only added to that sense: politically, I felt the show was presenting a pretty dark view of power and how seductive it is. So it's not really Roslin herself who I blame.
indigo419indigo419 on April 14th, 2007 05:39 pm (UTC)
Don’t these people love each other?

I was wondering too about the Adamas' responses in those situations, and the best theory I can come up with is that it's a little bit of a dramatic gesture on their parts: I am so dedicated to what I am doing that I am willing to sacrifice even the people I love! Look at me, how I hurt even while I do the necessary thing!

And I think it's telling that in each case, no one is asking Lee or Adama to make the sacrifice: it's something they put on themselves, and choose to bear in solitude. (Well, others would suffer too, but they carry the guilt themselves.)
daybreak777daybreak777 on April 14th, 2007 10:17 pm (UTC)
Bill Adama has been a bit, well, petty this season. This is forced from my lips because I love Adama. But you pick up on a hint of competition in this show. Who’s the better leader, who can sacrifice more, who loved Kara more. But Bill doesn’t get it. He lost his wife, his son with this necessary silent suffering. If not forced to hear his son out on the stand, he may have lost Lee too.

Adama’s been uneven. With New Caprica he goes back saying, “I can’t live with it.” Maybe cause he’s been lonely for people on Galactica for a year? I don’t know. But a tiny part of me believes he might have nuked the algae planet, Lee, Kara and them all. And I hate that a part of me feels it may have even been to spite Laura and Three a little. Laura for lying to him, and Three to win the game of who’s bigger. I don’t like that but it’s all through those scenes.

I’m a bit better with Lee cause I saw him lose it in EOJ and I know he didn’t want to leave Kara. And he was in a hard place with the New Capricans. They could have all died. It was a big gamble. I think it’s time for them both to grow up. There isn’t a lot of humanity left. Leave no one behind. And if they’re forced to, then at least struggle with it. Show some emotion. That’s what I’d like to see. The still waters are running a little too deep. Sometimes love needs to be shown.

Your response made me think a little bit more about Adama and try to figure him out. Thanks for that.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Leebop_radar on April 15th, 2007 11:33 am (UTC)
it's a little bit of a dramatic gesture on their parts: I am so dedicated to what I am doing that I am willing to sacrifice even the people I love! Look at me, how I hurt even while I do the necessary thing!
*nods* That's a great way of putting it. I think you've nailed it. That's so definitively Adama-like. They feel they need to be able to do that--and, as you say, not because they are asked but because they're strong enough to make that call themselves.
jude_judith82: andyjude_judith82 on April 13th, 2007 04:36 pm (UTC)
Ooh new essay and a two parter. I haven't read it yet but look forward to it.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Leebop_radar on April 13th, 2007 11:38 pm (UTC)
Hope you enjoy when you do!
latteaddict: Inseparablelatteaddict on April 14th, 2007 03:09 pm (UTC)
I appreciated that the show returned once again to the idea that Lee and Kara together effect not only each others' survival but the whole of humanity's

I agree and I think the show is much richer when allowing Starbuck and Apollo have these types of plot threads (that also include their deep emotional connection) than when it ignores them and will do half a dozen episodes in a row without any interaction between these two characters...who are essentially supposed to be the heroes of the fleet.

In the mini and Season One, Kara and Lee were established as a team who working together were greater than the sum of their parts.

Yes, and I love that about them.

The first half of Season two raised the idea that Kara and Lee were linked to a greater destiny.

So true! The Kobol arc was torture while they were apart but it came together beautifully in the end. And the flawless way they worked together in Flight of the Phoenix was the pinnacle display of how when two people know each other so well they can finish the other's sentence (or be the right hand to the other's left as they load and fire a gun)

Their 'heroic' qualities of being able to overcome all obstacles and save each other's lives are nowhere in evidence in this dark phase.

They either get it very right or very wrong!

(including Kara, though it's telling that there's still no real reconnection between Lee and Kara at this stage).

I admit those episodes killed me. I couldn't imagine that anything Kara would've done to Lee during the missing year could actually make him put his hurt feelings above her life in the grand scheme of things. The fact that there was no reunion really struck me, especially when compared to their Home 1 reunion.

The signs indicate that he's a key link between her and the rest of the fleet--he is the last to see her go and the first to see her return. Her last and first words are to him.

Nicely put. I hadn't really thought about it like that. I'm impressed because it fits so well.

Chaos versus order. Religion versus science. Kara and Lee represent opposing energies that ultimately need to be in balance to ensure harmony, and perhaps survival itself.

All true and yet they fit perfectly together. And I love when they switch their roles, they are still holding up the differentiating balance.

Only the extremely short-sighted would fail to notice Lee's Viper beside hers in that anvilicious final sequence. It's not much of a stretch, surely, to imagine that they will both be instrumental in leading the fleet to Earth.

oooh, I hope it does involve both of them.

This was a fantastic essay and very concisely put. Your points were very clear and made me reflect on some of the parallels I hadn't focused on before.
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lee/Kara boundbop_radar on April 15th, 2007 12:26 am (UTC)
Thanks so much for the long comment response! :-) I'm delighted you enjoyed the essay.

I think the show is much richer when allowing Starbuck and Apollo have these types of plot threads (that also include their deep emotional connection)
I agree, and I personally find the times when they're separated very difficult. It felt like RDM was increasing their separations every season, making them longer and longer. I suppose the theory is the reconnection when it comes is all the more powerful, but grr...

how when two people know each other so well they can finish the other's sentence (or be the right hand to the other's left as they load and fire a gun)
Yes! I'm insanely in love with that moment. It is the pinnacle symbol of their entwined nature to me.

The fact that there was no reunion really struck me, especially when compared to their Home 1 reunion.
Oh, I know! I tried so hard to be zen about it, because there was so much else going on in the show, but truthfully there was a great big gaping hole in my heart about that. The only thing that made me half ok with it was I didn't want to see Kara do a double-take about Lee's weight--I was all Lee-sensitive about that. How pathetic!

I love when they switch their roles, they are still holding up the differentiating balance.
Yes, that comes through very very strongly. And I think such flexibility bodes very well for them, especially if they themselves can come to a recognition of the ways in which they are both like and unlike each other.
indigo419: KL mine by _ebindigo419 on April 14th, 2007 05:34 pm (UTC)
Really lovely two-parter! I especially like how you compare and contrast their cycles of union and separation, falling and resurrection (and sometimes, the counter-cycles of failure and redemption/rescue).

This is making me think of marenfic's wonderful essay on Jungian themes in BSG, and how these primal myths show up whether or not the writers intend them to (because I don't think TPTB are quite so deliberate as your essay would make it appear, though I like to pretend they are!). (And there was another thing by leda13 about how the fate of K/L stands for the fate of everyman (woman) in the Fleet, except I can't find it now.)

Wish I had more to say than just word *g*, but you've articulated this all so well. Bravo!
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Leebop_radar on April 15th, 2007 12:29 am (UTC)
Oh, thank you for the lovely comment! And I agree that the themes and myths may not be deliberately explored by the writers, but I'm a big believer in certain narratives having a power of their own and archetypes coming through subconsciously regardless, which is one reason why I tend to focus on the outcome of the creative process in my meta and not on the writers' intentions.

I must read marenfic's essay! *bounces* Thanks for the recs!
indigo419: Kara aliveindigo419 on April 15th, 2007 05:25 am (UTC)
Am pretty sure you did read Maren's essay, since you commented on it. ;0) I'll keep looking for the Leda one, I want to reread it now too!
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Lee thinking hmmbop_radar on April 16th, 2007 03:44 am (UTC)
Doh! It's THAT one, of course! (Helps if I click the link before replying!) Yes, that was a great piece of meta.
indigo419: KL scar my soul by shadowserenityindigo419 on April 15th, 2007 05:37 am (UTC)
Ahah! Found it. (Scroll down past "Rating".) It was her review for Scar - I should have known! ;0P
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kara/Lee collapsedbop_radar on April 16th, 2007 03:43 am (UTC)
Ohhh, lovely! I'm so glad you found that for me. It's EXACTLY what I was trying to get at.
Dionusia: bad twins plottingdionusia on April 14th, 2007 08:26 pm (UTC)
Okay, I’ve been waiting a long time to comment on this because first I had to finish your story (yay ticklefic!), and do you know how awful was it that your essays were tempting me away from finishing it? (Anyway, it’s done and posted now, but I have a version twice as long as that, if you can believe it.) So whew.

I appreciated that the show returned once again to the idea that Lee and Kara together effect not only each others' survival but the whole of humanity's.

Of course you know I am totally down with this thesis! Ah, such a wonderful way to express how Kara and Lee and their relationship performs a function within the show—vital, not incidental or a diversion from the main plotlines. And your summation of the stages of their relationship rocks, Bop. It was quite hard to suffer through the "dark times" and separation of the two, and it did make me lose a little faith in this pairing, but I love how the finale had them back together, reaffirming their importance to one another and to the fate of the fleet. I think you're definitely right that Lee's fate is tied to Kara's, like we were talking before about how even the gods ship L/K, and that that MUST mean Lee is going to be essential to the search for Earth too.

I’ll definitely be back later for a shot at the rest of this stimulating essay. Thanks for a lovely read!
K, Bop or Boppy--take your pick!: Kara/Lee dreamybop_radar on April 15th, 2007 11:43 am (UTC)
Omg, I am still GLOWING with happy about your fic! \o/ It's so great! So thank you for being strong and not reading my essays. ;) Sorry it's taken me so long to reply--I had guests over today and all I wanted to do was shoo them away so I could run online and read your fic. ;-)

A version twice as long? o.O (I can't help but be curious, though I know that cutting can be good for keeping things tight--but still... you could always post the long version in your journal if you think it works. *g*)

It was quite hard to suffer through the "dark times" and separation of the two, and it did make me lose a little faith in this pairing
At the end of last season I was SO depressed. I was emo-ing around so much that even queenofthorns was more optimistic than me re. pilots, and that's saying something considering that fat!lee was eating her soul... I remember a couple of comments from her, and something that <lj user="norwich36" said (that Kara and Lee were the emotional centre of BSG) gave me something to cling to, but still, things were bleak indeed. The second half is not as strong--you've been warned! ;-) It's more speculative, so feel free to pitch in if you can help flesh out any of the ideas.